[WIP][MOD][OXCE] From the Apocalypse 0.29.0

[BlackStaff]

Thank you very much for new version ! 

[luke83]

wow, very nice work Robin, i have not been following this mod but i will now as it looks great.

[Dioxine]

I'd also like to tweak the Luxury Apartments terrain, too many 2-storey buildings: as Hobbes said in another thread, players don't really go there.

I'll just say that Hobbes himself is a master of multi-story buildings, with everything having 3 stories on average and tons of spots for alien snipers and ambushers; so take his advice with a grain of salt

Also congrats on the release, the police station is as masterful as any of your terrains!

[robin]

new version up, 0.4a.
fixed apartments terrain... but i just realized it needs one more little fix, so there is going to be another version soon-ish.

[Hythlodaeus]

Hi Robin,

One question, how do you to plan handle Mega-primus gameplay compared to the classic x-com geoscape? Additionally, are you planning to add any of the so-called features that were scrapped from the original game?

[robin]

Hi Robin,

One question, how do you to plan handle Mega-primus gameplay compared to the classic x-com geoscape? Additionally, are you planning to add any of the so-called features that were scrapped from the original game?

I'm not sure I got what you're asking but:

• Anything fancy needs coding and I can't do that, I'm limited to what's doable by plain modding (which is quite a lot). But scrapped Apoc stuff is mostly (if not completely) fancy stuff that can't be done without coding.
• There will be multiple mega cities instead of one.. I guess the geoscape will more or less work in a classic UFOEU fashion.
• There's already human-related missions but its minor stuff. One special human mission will be available once a country has fallen under alien control: instead of an alien base a "Subverted HQ" (or similar) site will be created, if the player clears that battelscape the country will be freed. Also I'd like to add another lesser enemy faction: rogue androids; but we'll see.

[Hythlodaeus]

So the geoscape gameplay will essentially have players oversee the globe and its many mega-cities, instead of city districts on a flat map?

[robin]

So the geoscape gameplay will essentially have players oversee the globe and its many mega-cities, instead of city districts on a flat map?

Yes.
I don't know if a flat geoscape can be done; but even if I manage to make a flat-looking geoscape it would still lack the dynamics/mechanics of Apocalypse (like different buildings having different sensitivity to infiltration, and so on), so in the end it wouldn't be worth it in my opinion.

[robin]

Geoscape related: long time ago I actually asked Warboy if it was possible to define a series of globe textures acting like "sea" (meaning: no crash site generation on them), so I could draw a spacescape out of the geoscape.
He told me that I was insane.

Indeed it would probably be near impossible to make it look decent.

[Solarius Scorch]

I've been in this X-Com modding business for 5 years now, and in my opinion, only insane ideas make truly outstanding mods.
This does not make such projects any easier, though.

[Meridian]

I've been in this X-Com modding business for 5 years now, and in my opinion, only insane ideas make truly outstanding mods.

I politely disagree.

[Solarius Scorch]

I meant that memorable mods always introduce something new... New concepts, new mechanics... Otherwise it's reskinned vanilla. Mods without it can be good of course, but they won't break any new grounds.

I am not that great with insane ideas myself, but I steal from insane projects.

[robin]

new version, 0.4b.
moar fixes to police+apartments terrains.

[The Reaver of Darkness]

only insane ideas make truly outstanding mods.

From the Apocalypse is a wonderful example of this

[Duke_Falcon]

Hi!

Well, I have some minor troubles with this mod. I started it on OXCE 3.7x not on "conventional" OXC.
1.: Since the very beginning I have research options for "Floater medic", "Sectoid medic" and Snakeman. All got researched almost instantly (5-8 hours in game time) and either give me a free "live alien report" or crash to desktop (STR_WHATEVER not defined, last time it was the Megaworm\Multiworm)...
2.: When I try to launch one of my crafts the game crashes and say interface elements are missing. I could not got any ground combat or air combat as it just crash when I click on the "Interception" menu.

I downloaded the last valid 7z file from this mod and overwritten the old game folder with it. I not think it is a ruleset error as I always delete old rulesets before override a mod's folder just for sure...