Bugs, crashes, typos & bad taste

[Solarius Scorch]

Let me try the civilized, assume-it-was-a-communication-error way first, then: what exactly were you trying to say by '"very much"'?

I was rolling eyes at your implication that it was obvious that the functionality existed, when even I didn't know about this and have been unable to confirm it to this very moment. I am sitting right now, MMB-ing items on the list, and nothing happens.
I'm not saying you are wrong, only that the feature is pretty much useless for XCF, as Pedia names are often different from training names.

@sudtrap I'm guessing this also answers your question.

[Juku121]

In that case, it was a communication mishap. I used 'very much' as an emphasis marker, not as a statement of quantity/obviousness. Kind of trying to say 'akshually' without literally saying it. Maybe I shouldn't have.

I mean, I wasn't acutely aware or using this feature, either. Especially since not all transformation articles are even listing the requirements (mostly soldier type transformations). I just tried, saw that it sometimes works and sometimes does not, and then remembered Meridian talking about a more unified shortcut system. And, yes, while it's possible to rejigger training names and pedia names, it'll be mildly save-breaking and I'm not sure it's all that valuable.

I am sitting right now, MMB-ing items on the list, and nothing happens.

You sure you have at least OXCE 7.9.2? I even get this with 7.8.18. Don't know if it goes much lower. Well, it goes down to at least 7.8.7, which is when I last actually played.

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In any case, I suggest refraining from further public eyerolling. It's at least somewhat against the "don't be a jerk" rule, and nothing good has ever come of it that I recall.

I mean, I'm not exactly snow white here, and I'll try to ask for clarification next time instead of snarking, but this goes both ways.

[Solarius Scorch]

You sure you have at least OXCE 7.9.2? I even get this with 7.8.18. Don't know if it goes much lower. Well, it goes down to at least 7.8.7, which is when I last actually

played.

Yeah, and I also found some cases where it works, but it took some time... Which is why I still think this feature isn't compatible with XCF.

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TBH my reaction was as it was because I definitely saw this as yet another smug attempt at "biting the ankles for no reason".

Maybe I'm just paranoid, but I often get this vibe from you specifically, and very rarely from other people... Which may well be completely unfounded, but is a definite sign that something is not working here, communication-wise. And I think it's not primarily on my end, since I asked two different people for an impartial opinion and they both had very similar impressions about it.

Please don't consider it to be an act of hostility, I am not trying to argue, just trying to give a proper answer. Your conversation style is quite confrontational on a regular basis, and not just to me. I ignore it most of the time, since I value your insight, but I am no saint. I hope it goes better in the future, but I'm afraid it needs some reflection on your part as well.

[Nerro]

Is it normal that mixed alien base do not have an alien commander?
Looking at the wiki, it seems the alien commander is replaced by an additional alien leader.

Many soldiers died in order to capture this additional leader, and now their families are bugging me the report says their sacrifice was not needed. :'(

[Solarius Scorch]

Is it normal that mixed alien base do not have an alien commander?
Looking at the wiki, it seems the alien commander is replaced by an additional alien leader.

Many soldiers died in order to capture this additional leader, and now their families are bugging me the report says their sacrifice was not needed. :'(

Indeed, they have no leader... Which is probably unfair, as you say.

I'll check if I can change it.

EDIT: done.
If you ask me, I would say it's legit to hack a STR_SECTOID_COMMANDER to your save.

[krautbernd]

Yeah, and I also found some cases where it works, but it took some time... Which is why I still think this feature isn't compatible with XCF.

I don't really care about mmb "compatibility", but what I would appreciate is if the ufopedia articles would actually list all of the requirements for transformations. Right now (still on 2.8, so thits might have changed) these are only listed for the low-end/early transformations, but not for most of the later ones (Helix Psion, Helix Knight, Kyberism etc.).

[Solarius Scorch]

I don't really care about mmb "compatibility", but what I would appreciate is if the ufopedia articles would actually list all of the requirements for transformations. Right now (still on 2.8, so thits might have changed) these are only listed for the low-end/early transformations, but not for most of the later ones (Helix Psion, Helix Knight, Kyberism etc.).

Understandable, I just found myself struggling for space. I'll think about it.

[krautbernd]

Understandable, I just found myself struggling for space. I'll think about it.

Aren't there already entries which take up more than the screen actually allows and which take "advantage" of the scrolling feature? Just paste the requirements onto the end. I don't think people really mind (at least I don't) as long as the requirements are listed/accessible somewhere in-game.

[Juku121]

I don't think people really mind

There's at least one person who does.

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@Solarius: You brought up some valid points. I'll try to do better in the future. I'm no saint, either, so no idea how it'll actually go.

[Solarius Scorch]

If there are articles that require scrolling, please post them as bugs, since I didn't want them to exist.

[Vakrug]

Understandable, I just found myself struggling for space. I'll think about it.

Another solution: 2 articles instead of one. Just like with some weapons with many ammo types.

[Juku121]

articles that require scrolling

What I found: Reptoid Treaty, Olympianism, Pancor Jackhammer, BO Assault Cannon, AI Unit (quite a bit, and sneakily at that), Black Lotus Host.

Also, Saurian Ghost seems to lack a Pedia entry. and STR_GILLMAN_HERO_AUTOPSY a translation into human. Already fixed.

The 'no autopsy' picture might also be better off with a black 'transparent' section instead of the dark blue 'fog' it has right now.

[sudtrap]

What I found: Reptoid Treaty, Olympianism, Pancor Jackhammer, BO Assault Cannon, AI Unit (quite a bit, and sneakily at that), Black Lotus Host.

Also, Saurian Ghost seems to lack a Pedia entry and STR_GILLMAN_HERO_AUTOPSY a translation into human.

The 'no autopsy' picture might also be better off with a black 'transparent' section instead of the dark blue 'fog' it has right now.

Weird. I don't remember having a single article that needed scrolling. Maybe it's something to do with the resolution size?
 
@Solarius: As long as you are aware of what I trying to point out, that's good enough for me. It's definitely not a big deal; it's a small thing I happened to notice while playing. On a separate note, I will second that idea that the stat requirements should be listed for upgrades in the ufopedia; unless you intend for players to open the wiki and reference that while playing.

[Juku121]

Weird. I don't remember having a single article that needed scrolling. Maybe it's something to do with the resolution size?

I don't think so. As far as I know, Pedia proportions or resolution aren't scaled. If they were, modders would have a lot of trouble making sure their articles line up properly.

But you don't have to trust me. Fire up the game and check out the articles I mentioned yourself. Fire up a Quick Battle if you don't have a convenient save handy.

[sudtrap]

You know what? I never realized you could scroll on those. I saw that the text got cut off and just assumed that was the cutoff. I double checked the jackhammer and you have to scroll through it to read the whole entry.