Re: [MAIN] XPiratez - N10 24-Nov-2024 Aurora's Dawn

[xcomfan]

But Oharty's gun is not a rifle. Even carbine is stretching it. It's a pistol(?). A pistol-carbine hybrid?

yes  but in game's logic it's supposed to be (generically) an handgun, but i was arguin on the name, not on the classification. Another possible solution might ve "kustom handgun" or "kustom lil'gun"

[Iazo]

There's already a Kustom handcannon.

Really, what is wrong with the current name?

[xcomfan]

There's already a Kustom handcannon.

Really, what is wrong with the current name?

Just suggestions 
While we are here eurosindycate smg might be supposed to be taken into infiltration mission because it's lighter and smaller than the painbringer, which shoul not be  allowed as it is now, in version L3

[Greep]

With all the items/conditions in the game some are just going to be weird.

"Ah, I see you are dressed as batman.  There's nothing suspicious with that.  Carry on."

[Dioxine]

Just suggestions 
While we are here eurosindycate smg might be supposed to be taken into infiltration mission because it's lighter and smaller than the painbringer, which shoul not be  allowed as it is now, in version L3

ES SMG is marginally lighter, but definitely larger. Also the weight of painbringer is increased in-game terms to represent its recoil as one-handed weapon... Okay this is probably way too complex for you already. What am saying, comment what you want, just don't give BS information to people.

[xcomfan]

ES SMG is marginally lighter, but definitely larger. Also the weight of painbringer is increased in-game terms to represent its recoil as one-handed weapon... Okay this is probably way too complex for you already. What am saying, comment what you want, just don't give BS information to people.

OK...sorry if i dared, just figuring by myself

some other food for thought: to get advanced firearms we need industrial tools and to the latter is needed longbow which in turn requires spider silk, but it's really necessary that longbow is a prequisite for industrial stuff? May it be replaced to a more related item? Just saying

Spider silk is gettable also from cave hunting and buthcering gigant spider (am i right?), but there is no mention in the research tree

[Ashghan]

Manufucturing outputs are never listed in research sources. Ie. you can get the research Spider Silk from the item of the same name (no list of it's sources) or from other research (interrogations in this case).

[Greep]

I understand there were some morale changes in L3, started a new game and they seem a bit too strict.  I went to a whorehouse and slaughtered everyone within 7 turns, since I spawned right next to the house.  Usually in that situation once the highwaymen go down, that's it.  But amazingly, all 4 of the hoes left on the map were unpanicked and had pistols.  I killed some of them just to see if it would cause the others to surrender, and nope.  Making it harder to cause a surrender is cool, but I mean, I didn't even get any panics at all it seemed.

Also did a crackhouse, killed everyone, last guy standing was a b-boy, all of the final 3 were unpanicked.

[legionof1]

From the mouth of Dioxine over on the discord:

major bug regarding enemy morale recovery in L3
try substituting in Piratez_Armors.rul the current formula with:
      morale: &SECTION_MORALE_RECOVERY_NORMAL
        flatHundred: -0.1
        manaNormalized: 13.0
        moraleCurrent: -0.07
        bravery: 0.08

[Greep]

Ah, yeah something did feel off.  Gotcha

Edit:  Yeah back to normal.  Another kill run had a pretty regular panic level.

[legionof1]

yeah makes a big diffrence when you misplace a decimal point in the base regen formula. 80% vs 8%

[amjh]

Did the OXCE update change damage RNG? I seem to get a lot more extreme values, either high or low. Weak armor blocks strong attacks more often, and weak guns get through strong armor more often.

[Meridian]

Did the OXCE update change damage RNG?

no

[Greep]

Tried out the combat bow stun arrows for a while, I think they're a bit too weak, wondering what other people think.  It feels like by the time you get gals good enough to use them, the few things they can actually inflict stun on (anything heavier than a highwayman is impossible), you'll have easier means (for civvies: chain mail + whips/shield or stun grenades, for monsters grav + lasso).  Even with experienced gals, they're kinda meh:  I had 3 gals in their 70s throwing fail to stun a giant spider with 6 stun arrows.

I guess if you start the game right from the start using hunting arrows they'd have a short period of usefulness, but I haven't really found hunting bow to be really effective until you get poison arrows.

[Dioxine]

Dude, are you seriously comparing combat bow stun arrows with stun grenades? (I will not even comment on chain mail or lasso, since obvious irrelevance to the topic). In game terms, it's like saying "Buff PTRD rifle, Javelin ATGM does the job better!" Get a grip on reality.

Also using a really lousy case of RNG as an example (bow damage is always very RNG) is kinda manipulative.

In a way of saying thanks for this... stupidest comment of the month, I'm buffing daze resistance on the Spiders.