Re: The X-Com Files - 3.5: Whispers In The Dark

[theophilos]

OHHHHHHH

I always assumed the timer started as soon as was no longer held because they didn't blow up in inventory

Understand now

Btw with the mines, how do they trigger exactly? Only stepping directly on them? People seem to like them a lot , I put them on dogs too, but it seems hard to throw them very far

Btw wish there was a way to hide walls in order to see ground items better, that's another reason I don't use them much I'm afraid of forgetting they are there

[Juku121]

I always assumed the timer started as soon as was no longer held because they didn't blow up in inventory

Well, you can change them to blow up in the inventory, too, if you wish.


Mines are basically heavier proxies. They trigger when someone move into one of the 8 adjacent tiles - but not when someone walks under them or hovers over them, if you're into that. Or onto the tile directly, but that's largely limited to fliers and elevators.

If mines seem too heavy, proxies are some ways up the tech tree. There are even improved proxies in XCF.


Mines are very much supposed to lurk and surprise you. There can even be mines that are invisible on the minimap (and/or have no floorobj), but thankfully these haven't migrated over from Piratez. Well, except for one little surprise.

No way to hide walls that I know of. X-Com was before that became a thing.

[Stone Lake]

Btw wish there was a way to hide walls in order to see ground items better, that's another reason I don't use them much I'm afraid of forgetting they are there

Check minimap, activated grenades/mines show as red crosses. I do forget about the mines all the time, makes for some hilarious moments. And/or semi-intended tactic - throw a mine at mook, move a dog to blow it up.

[theophilos]

Nothing is more depressing than one of your best guys running to an osprey while on fire and realizing forgot to load the extinguishers 😢

Btw do people on fire sometimes extinguish themselves? I thought I saw it happen on a playthrough vid once , and if so how is it calculated for a fire to go out on someone ? Is it just a base %

Edit:

He survived after 3-4 turns must have been the extra health from bio enhancement that kept him going 😂 fire went out

[Juku121]

Yes, people and aliens and tanks and dogs and so on all get extinguished in a few turns. Details.

Smoke grenades also put out ground fires, but sadly not units.

[Chuckebaby]

Nothing is more depressing than one of your best guys running to an osprey while on fire and realizing forgot to load the extinguishers 😢

Coming soon in The Xcom files newest update: "Stop, drop and roll feature" 

This literally happened to me last week. Forgot the extinguisher. Guy was on fire for a few turns. Health loss not bad but was in sickbay for a while.

[Sneak Dog]

Coming soon in The Xcom files newest update: "Stop, drop and roll feature" 

This literally happened to me last week. Forgot the extinguisher. Guy was on fire for a few turns. Health loss not bad but was in sickbay for a while.

Give kneeling a 5% chance to stop being on fire?

[Chuckebaby]

Give kneeling a 5% chance to stop being on fire?

You are on to something.

Continuous kneeling/standing putting fire out.

[Belcanzor]

I just start your mod incredible mod.
First question:
Whats the deal with the Mudranger? Some kind of internal joke?
And: An entire hangar for just a car? I try not add much mods and play as pure of your design, but I know there is an hangar mod.
Again: Incredible!

[zee_ra]

Mines are very much supposed to lurk and surprise you. There can even be mines that are invisible on the minimap (and/or have no floorobj), but thankfully these haven't migrated over from Piratez. Well, except for one little surprise.

Is the "little surprise" a charge that attempts to blow my weapon stash on mansion defense missions?  If so, how could I eliminate it proactively?  The aim is to prevent too much inventory management in/out and to avoid losing expensive weapons (like e.g. psi-amps, medi-kits, very custom rockets).

[Stone Lake]

One ways of "protecting" the stash is CTRL+SHIFT+X at base -> craft -> inventory equipment screen. That will remove all unused equipment from the stash.

[Nerro]

I just start your mod incredible mod.
First question:
Whats the deal with the Mudranger? Some kind of internal joke?
[...]

Mudranger is very usefull if you need to bring a lot of soldiers to something very upsetting that can spawn too close to you base if RNG hates you. (You will see what I'm talking about in time.)
Other than that, I find it useless.

[Juku121]

Is the "little surprise" a charge that attempts to blow my weapon stash on mansion defense missions?

No, it's the

Spoiler:

lurking Cybermites. I think they're only found on the Moon, and hatch pretty quickly, so not a big issue. But a proxy mine based on that could be nasty.

Mudranger is also handy for assaulting cult HQs, since those spawn in fixed locations. But, yes, it's a rather niche craft otherwise. Myself, I made it into a proto-Osprey, 12 men with global reach (the idea was that they fly to a military base and borrow an APC from there) but as slow as a van or thereabouts.

[Belcanzor]

Mudranger is very usefull if you need to bring a lot of soldiers to something very upsetting that can spawn too close to you base if RNG hates you. (You will see what I'm talking about in time.)
Other than that, I find it useless.

Perhaps buy it at the start was a bad idea. Thanks for answer. I m still exploring the mod and restart several times because I fail to understand this is a total conversion , as example: first thing I did in my 1st try was using all the money on hire scientist at day 1 :p

[Belcanzor]

No, it's the

Spoiler:

lurking Cybermites. I think they're only found on the Moon, and hatch preyyu quickly, so not a big issue. But a proxy mine based on that could be nasty.

Mudranger is also handy for assaulting cult HQs, since those spawn in fixed locations. But, yes, it's a rather niche craft otherwise. Myself, I made it into a proto-Osprey, 12 men with global reach (the idea was that they fly to a military base and borrow an APC from there) but as slow as a van or thereabouts.

Thank you. I try to find that proto-Osprey. I hope some way of lab appear soon because I got tons of stuff to investigate and just 5 people.