[OLD] Old OXCE+ discussion thread

[Meridian]

Hotfix: https://lxnt.wtf/oxem/builds//ExtendedPlus/Extended+-3.10a-26a9514-2018-06-20-win32.7z

[BlackStaff]

Hotfix work fine ! Tks ! 

[Ethereal]

Fine work, Meridian. There is a question. The files in "\ common \ Shaders" are different from the latest version of openxcom. For full-fledged work it is necessary to use original openxcom files, or yours from OXCE +? I have not yet encountered errors, but I would like to know all the same.

Oh yes, the transformation of soldiers only works with corpses. Judging by the option, it must with live, but live transformation only clones, even with "createsClone: false". And with all the statistics.

[Meridian]

Fine work, Meridian. There is a question. The files in "\ common \ Shaders" are different from the latest version of openxcom. For full-fledged work it is necessary to use original openxcom files, or yours from OXCE +? I have not yet encountered errors, but I would like to know all the same.

All shader files in the latest OXCE+ are identical with the latest OXC nightly.

If you have differences, you are either using an old version or haven't installed correctly. Or maybe didn't compare correctly.

https://github.com/MeridianOXC/OpenXcom/compare/oxce3.5-plus-proto...SupSuper:master

Oh yes, the transformation of soldiers only works with corpses. Judging by the option, it must with live, but live transformation only clones, even with "createsClone: false". And with all the statistics.

It seems to work fine for me, for example with this ruleset:

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soldierTransformation:
  - name: STR_BUFF_SOLDIER
    producedSoldierType: STR_SOLDIER
    cost: 10000
    keepSoldierArmor: true
    allowsDeadSoldiers: false
    allowsLiveSoldiers: true
    needsCorpseRecovered: false
    allowedSoldierTypes:
      - STR_SOLDIER
    percentOverallStatChange:
      firing: 100
    lowerBoundAtStatCaps: false
    upperBoundAtStatCaps: true
    forbiddenPreviousTransformations:
      - STR_BUFF_SOLDIER
    requiredMinStats:
      firing: 50

Can you post ruleset, which doesn't work?

[Ethereal]

All shader files in the latest OXCE+ are identical with the latest OXC nightly.

If you have differences, you are either using an old version or haven't installed correctly. Or maybe didn't compare correctly.

Understandably. Just the date the files were modified is confused.

It seems to work fine for me, for example with this ruleset:

Can you post ruleset, which doesn't work?

Working. Moreover, I found where I was mistaken. Thank you!

[Player701]

Hi.

I've been trying this out and suddenly discover it's possible to destroy outer UFO walls with a heavy plasma. This clearly shouldn't happen as stated here, and I see no mentioning of this in the changelog. Can't replicate this in OpenXcom, that's why I presume this change was introduced in OXCE+ (whether accidentally or deliberately). Using no mods except the universal patch on top of the Steam version of game data. Is it possible to revert this behavior to correspond to OpenXcom / original game?

Thanks.

[Meridian]

I did not introduce this in OXCE+, at least not deliberately.

Can't speak for OXCE.

I will check and let you know... would you maybe have a save for me?
In a moment just before you destroy the wall?

[Yataka Shimaoka]

If I may ask, does the wall looks like it has lines at the side?

[ohartenstein23]

Tile destruction is calculated somewhat differently due to Yankes' introduction of the ToTile parameter for damageAlter on weapons - I remember seeing this before.  The default in OXCE for non-AoE weapons is to deal 50% of the rolled damage (0-200% of the power) to a tile. @Meridian - you can see this if you follow RuleDamageType::getTileDamage - it's passed the damage roll and the default ToTile of 0.5.

@Player 701 - if you want to mod this out, you can create a mod that has the following entry:

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items:
  - type: STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
    damageAlter:
      ToTile: 0.4 # anything under 0.43 will cause maximum tile damage of 115 * 2 * 0.43 ~ 98, 100 is necessary to destroy the outer hull


[Meridian]

So what's different?
Vanilla also does 50% damage to terrain, no?

[ohartenstein23]

Vanilla does 25-75% of weapon power to terrain, 50% is the rule only for explosions. OXCE does 0-100% of weapon power.

[Meridian]

OK, that's a pretty clear bug for me then... I'll report to Yankes.

[TheDeparted]

Have you guys considered an auto-update feature of your fabulous work? You know, like the one they have in Heroes 3 HD mod.

[Meridian]

Have you guys considered an auto-update feature of your fabulous work? You know, like the one they have in Heroes 3 HD mod.

Yes, but it's a low priority.

[Ethereal]

Meridian, what other plans?
By the way, it would be good "Readme.txt" to upgrade, write there all the available options for rules files. And then I heard something about anti-camouflage, but found none and even impossible to understand, it exists or not?