OXCE (OpenXcom Extended) main thread

[Shiroi Bara]

Posting it's here because I think this is OXCE related bug. Nagas can use fans as holes in the USO and just moves up through it. I'm adding save file, it's Ironman, so set it off if you need.

Arrows mark their movement up-down. It's currently should be under fan on first floor. 

[Yankes]

Do you check OXC or Vanilla how they behave? I don't think we change any thing in that aspect in OXCE.

[Meridian]

Posting it's here because I think this is OXCE related bug. Nagas can use fans as holes in the USO and just moves up through it. I'm adding save file, it's Ironman, so set it off if you need.

Arrows mark their movement up-down. It's currently should be under fan on first floor.

Why is that a bug? Xcom units (e.g. your shrimp drone) can do that too.

[Shiroi Bara]

Ok, I never tried with drone this trick yet, thanks for explanation.  That Naga who magically appears from fan just scary me =)

[roysintm]

Hi,

I'm new so I probably doing something stupid but here it goes:

My OS is Ubuntu 18.04.4 - user has admin rights.

- I have the XCOM Ufo Defense vanilla files incl. patch
- I downloaded the latest version of Openxcom Extended
- Unzipped the 7z file, all good.
- Copied the vanilla folders to the UFO folder (according to the readme.txt file in the UFO folder)
- Now ,in the parent directory I have the file OpenXomEx... it has the checkbox "allow executing file as a program" checked.
  but I cannot run it, it's no executable? it's a shared lib of some kind...

I want to use OpenXcom Extended to run the open Xcom files mod...

Any help much appreciated. 

[R1dO]

It is a known bug in one of ubuntu's components.

Try the procedure as described by Meridian in the topic this bug was first encountered:
https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,7361.msg116438.html#msg116438

If that solves your problem but you still insist on starting via clicking an icon you can use my workaround as posted in that same topic:
https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,7361.msg116347.html#msg116347

[Shiroi Bara]

Questions: why aquanauts miss the shots if they have 120% accuracy? How that possible and why more than 100%? Is it possible to change human death sounds for two different types (female, male) in tftd like in original USO using .rul files or it's hard coded?

[Meridian]

Questions: why aquanauts miss the shots if they have 120% accuracy? How that possible and why more than 100%?

Because it is not 120%.
It's just 120.
Without %.

Is it possible to change human death sounds for two different types (female, male) in tftd like in original USO using .rul files?

Yes.

[Shiroi Bara]

Because it is not 120%.

Then what is this? Why % present?

[R1dO]

It was probably the best option for Gollop to communicate to the player 2 things [1]:
* The bigger the number, the better
* It has something to do with how likely you are to hit the target

[1] Baring aside creating some glyph nobody would understand without reading the manual.

[vadracas]

Bear in mind I haven't looked through the code on this, but the percent chance given is the actual chance to hit a 2x2 square of target voxels plus 20. The reason for the plus 20 is the fact that a hitbox is generally larger than a 2x2 voxel square. The actual chance to hit is impossible to quantify as sometimes it hits the target voxel square but one of the voxels in the square is obstructed so it looks like it misses to the player.

TLDR: Hit chances are a reference and nothing more concrete.

[Meridian]

Bear in mind I haven't looked through the code on this, but the percent chance given is the actual chance to hit a 2x2 square of target voxels plus 20. The reason for the plus 20 is the fact that a hitbox is generally larger than a 2x2 voxel square. The actual chance to hit is impossible to quantify as sometimes it hits the target voxel square but one of the voxels in the square is obstructed so it looks like it misses to the player.

TLDR: Hit chances are a reference and nothing more concrete.

There are no hit chances on ranged attacks in OpenXcom, full stop.
Don't try to invent any, and please don't confuse the people even more than they are.

There is also no 2x2 target approximation, nor any +20 magical constants, or anything of that kind.
Just isn't.
Seriously.
OpenXcom can easily show you accuracy of 340% or 10000000% if the modder decides to pump up soldier or weapon stats.

[Yankes]

And still miss

Another other side, there is small probability that if you place in specific place shooter and target then overall number of hits will be similar to to this "percent" show in UI. But again as Meridian said, this is outside of OXC logic a engine do not do any calcinations as this.

[vadracas]

Bear in mind I haven't looked through the code on this,

As I said, thanks for the clarification, I thought there was some percent math going on with target voxels.

TLDR: Hit chances are a reference and nothing more concrete.

As stated

[Shiroi Bara]

Can't put down Gas cannon from poor guy. I've tried use arrow in right bottom corner to make a space on floor but it's not working =(. So is this bug, feature (Triton space limitation is NOT set to 80), or I just unlucky with my hands and mouse?