Additional door in Skyranger

[Mixos]

Hello everyone!
I loved this game since I saw it for the first time on MS DOS
Can someone help me?
I tried to make additional door in Skyranger, but faced with problem: with openxcom map editor i make a hole in Skyranger's hull, but create a ladder is impossible for me (i can't add ladder from other images).
Maybe this mod already exists or someone did something like this for yourself?

Thanks a lot!

P.S.: Sorry for my bad english.

[Arthanor]

I have a mod with an improved skyranger that has side doors, but unfortunately it does not have ladders. Creating and editing maps is not something I can do but I know Hobbes has a ladder in some of his maps, that work like the grav-lifts in UFOs. It should be possible to grab it from there and use it (if it has the correct orientation).

I've attached my craft mod, any ways and with a bit of help from Hobbes you can get a ladder in there too!

[yrizoud]

I am not 100% sure, but I think the map file format does not let you define a tile which is both a deployment area and a lift. This means when you design a ship, whatever you do, the soldiers will still have to take at least one step before they can "beam down".

[Hobbes]

I am not 100% sure, but I think the map file format does not let you define a tile which is both a deployment area and a lift. This means when you design a ship, whatever you do, the soldiers will still have to take at least one step before they can "beam down".

Have you actually tried this?

[Arthanor]

It would be interesting to see if you can overwrite this by defining deployments in the ruleset too.

[yrizoud]

Have you actually tried this?

No, it's from reading threads here that I thought there was this limitation. After a bit of search in the sources, they look compatible ("gravLift" is a dedicated flag, "start area" is one of the possible values for SpecialType).
In vanilla Alien base, the 2x2 lifts are the only parts of the starting area where your units will be MIA if you abort the mission. I guess this would be solved if there were 2 gravlift tiles in the MCD, one type used in the starting areas, and one used for every other lift of the base.

[Hobbes]

It would be interesting to see if you can overwrite this by defining deployments in the ruleset too.

Like this?

Code: [Select]

  - type: STR_LIGHTNING
    deployment:
      - [10, 5, 1, 2]
      - [10, 6, 1, 2]
      - [10, 4, 1, 2]
      - [9, 7, 1, 2]
      - [9, 3, 1, 2]
      - [8, 7, 1, 2]
      - [8, 3, 1, 2]
      - [7, 7, 1, 2]
      - [7, 3, 1, 2]
      - [6, 6, 1, 2]
      - [6, 4, 1, 2]
      - [6, 5, 1, 2]

No, it's from reading threads here that I thought there was this limitation. After a bit of search in the sources, they look compatible ("gravLift" is a dedicated flag, "start area" is one of the possible values for SpecialType).
In vanilla Alien base, the 2x2 lifts are the only parts of the starting area where your units will be MIA if you abort the mission. I guess this would be solved if there were 2 gravlift tiles in the MCD, one type used in the starting areas, and one used for every other lift of the base.

Yeah, from my knowledge there's nothing that prevents defining a tile both as a lift and a start area, but IIRC you don't actually need to set the tile as '1' (start area) as long as you define spawn nodes for XCom units on the route file. I can be wrong about this though.

[Arthanor]

Like this?

Code: [Select]

  - type: STR_LIGHTNING
    deployment:
      - [10, 5, 1, 2]
      - [10, 6, 1, 2]
      - [10, 4, 1, 2]
      - [9, 7, 1, 2]
      - [9, 3, 1, 2]
      - [8, 7, 1, 2]
      - [8, 3, 1, 2]
      - [7, 7, 1, 2]
      - [7, 3, 1, 2]
      - [6, 6, 1, 2]
      - [6, 4, 1, 2]
      - [6, 5, 1, 2]

Yup, using that to put soldiers onto the lift at the beginning. But that doesn't help with the recovery side of things as the units would still be MIA on lifts unless they are flagged as starting areas.

[Solarius Scorch]

The actual problem with a ladder (that functions like a lift) is that it'd require placing a special floor tile at the bottom. Which is a problem for Skyranger, because it would replace the normal, terrain-related floor tile that's supposed to be there (for example grass or snow).

[moriarty]

The actual problem with a ladder (that functions like a lift) is that it'd require placing a special floor tile at the bottom. Which is a problem for Skyranger, because it would replace the normal, terrain-related floor tile that's supposed to be there (for example grass or snow).

perhaps make that floor tile (and several others, for obfuscation) some kind of burned/scorched ground? the Skyranger is a VTOL craft after all, you'd expect some scorchmarks underneath...

[Solarius Scorch]

perhaps make that floor tile (and several others, for obfuscation) some kind of burned/scorched ground? the Skyranger is a VTOL craft after all, you'd expect some scorchmarks underneath...

Honestly, I don't think it'd look good. Why only one burned tile, and always right under the ladder of all places? Nuclear Ladder jokes incoming.

[moriarty]

perhaps make that floor tile (and several others, for obfuscation) some kind of burned/scorched ground? the Skyranger is a VTOL craft after all, you'd expect some scorchmarks underneath...

 

[Solarius Scorch]

Yes yes, I know - sorry, was writing from work. Anyway, I meant I don't have a concept of a pattern that would look believable. But hey, I'm not saying it's impossible.

[niculinux]

Hello everyone!
I loved this game since I saw it for the first time on MS DOS
Can someone help me?
I tried to make additional door in Skyranger, but faced with problem: with openxcom map editor i make a hole in Skyranger's hull, but create a ladder is impossible for me (i can't add ladder from other images).
Maybe this mod already exists or someone did something like this for yourself?

Thanks a lot!

P.S.: Sorry for my bad english.

Maybe the new skyranger mod does it, i suppose,but it's not updated for nightlies :,(