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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2910 on: July 19, 2018, 10:25:59 am »
I have ideas on how to improve this situation... Sadly, vanilla OXC (as opposed to OXCE+) doesn't support them. :P

(What I would like to do is to add an advanced laboratory which would be required for high end weapons... But alas, building functions are not supported by OXC. So sad.)

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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2911 on: July 19, 2018, 08:23:49 pm »
Well we may disagree on the amount of weapons but I do agree the progression is to clumped. Personally I think less is more here with weapons in this case without the spacing for them.

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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2912 on: July 21, 2018, 10:00:10 pm »
I have ideas on how to improve this situation... Sadly, vanilla OXC (as opposed to OXCE+) doesn't support them. :P

(What I would like to do is to add an advanced laboratory which would be required for high end weapons... But alas, building functions are not supported by OXC. So sad.)

that sounds cool.. maybe you could tie these unlocks to something only obtainable in alien base? maybe i don't understand the full subtleties, but its generally my policy to leave the bases up and farm the supply ships once a country has been inflitrated... game could use some more motivation to raid these directly i think.

anyway, w/e direction you take it, thanks again!

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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2913 on: July 23, 2018, 01:22:41 pm »
Alien bases aren't that hard, though. At least not objectively. I think we need something stronger.

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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2914 on: July 24, 2018, 07:09:55 am »
Alien bases aren't that hard, though. At least not objectively. I think we need something stronger.

I was half expecting more multistage stuff in FMP.. is this even possible? attacking a base should be 2-stage i think, to make it harder... a lot of the hybrid and MiB fortresses look like entrances to something underground

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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2915 on: July 24, 2018, 11:26:07 am »
Yep, two stages are definitely possible... I'll think about it.

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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2916 on: August 06, 2018, 01:40:10 pm »
solariusscorch: Just a tiny change to the alloy skyranger... I moved the front wings (and wheels) one tile forward, it gives you much more protection that way when opening the door without blocking the view. And i fixed one tile which was a Wall when it should be an object (bug comes from original XCOM).


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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2917 on: August 07, 2018, 10:27:43 am »
Hello!
Is there exists document with full research tree of this mod?

Is there a difference in researches if im using OpenXcom Extended 3.10 ?

Thanks!

I already found PNG file with complete research tree inside mod archive

FUF it's complicated
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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2918 on: August 07, 2018, 07:46:43 pm »
solariusscorch: Just a tiny change to the alloy skyranger... I moved the front wings (and wheels) one tile forward, it gives you much more protection that way when opening the door without blocking the view.

Thanks! Makes sense.

And i fixed one tile which was a Wall when it should be an object (bug comes from original XCOM).

Yeah, I fixed it myself last week... :D

Is there a difference in researches if im using OpenXcom Extended 3.10 ?

It should work just fine, go for it.

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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2919 on: August 08, 2018, 01:52:59 pm »
Shotgun is a cheating wepon
It's too precise.
It says that accuracy suffer from distance much but anyway it's much more accurate then rifle, alien laser rifle...
shoot time shoud be rised and accurecy reduced

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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2920 on: August 08, 2018, 02:17:44 pm »
Shotgun is a cheating wepon
It's too precise.
It says that accuracy suffer from distance much but anyway it's much more accurate then rifle, alien laser rifle...
shoot time shoud be rised and accurecy reduced

You are literally the first person ever to say this... Shotguns in OXC are so inaccurate that most players (though not all) consider them useless. (In OXCE+ you can tweak them much better.)
I am not trying to argue here, or play the contrarian, but I am not sure what to think about this... I am missing the frame of reference.

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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2921 on: August 08, 2018, 05:30:47 pm »
I enjoy the way shotgun works overall... the range aspect of it feels a little binary -- ie a small distance near max range makes it drastically more/less effective, but its a nice rookie weapon, whereas the others require soldiers w/ at least some basic accuracy.  at best i'll equip 2 in a squad, though... Maybe it could be tweaked slightly but nerf it too much and i probably wouldn't use it

maybe there's a play-style that exploits its strengths, though.. agree that more context is needed

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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2922 on: August 09, 2018, 09:55:47 pm »
Yep, two stages are definitely possible... I'll think about it.

I tried throwing something together myself, and I think I understand your reluctance a little better now.  Seems OXC does not connect the alien base to the geoscape terrain its in.. ie a surface-level base battlescape won't feel right most of the time (defaults to mars, unless overridden manually in ruleset)

anyway, as my summer time off runs out, i'm gonna drop my ruleset here, in case you or someone else takes another look down the road.. maybe save a few mins, or even catch something i missed.  FYI I tried using the 'pyramid rebirth' UFO's posted by Luke elsewhere on these forums as the surface base structures.. they seem to work adequately, but you'll need to grab the assets from that thread

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          -
            - STR_PLASMA_SUB
            - STR_PLASMA_SUB_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_SUB_CLIP
          -
            - STR_PLASMA_RIFLE
            - STR_PLASMA_RIFLE_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_RIFLE_CLIP
          -
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
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            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER_CLIP
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            - STR_PLASMA_CASTER_CLIP
          -
            - STR_PLASMA_PISTOL
            - STR_PLASMA_PISTOL_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_PISTOL_CLIP
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            - STR_PLASMA_SUB_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_SUB_CLIP
          -
            - STR_PLASMA_RIFLE
            - STR_PLASMA_RIFLE_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_RIFLE_CLIP
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            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
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            - STR_STUN_BOMB
            - STR_STUN_BOMB
          -
            - STR_SMALL_LAUNCHER
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            - STR_ELERIUM_BOMB
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            - STR_ELERIUM_BOMB
            - STR_ELERIUM_BOMB
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            - STR_ALIEN_LASER_RIFLE_CLIP
          -
            - STR_PLASMA_PISTOL
            - STR_PLASMA_PISTOL_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_PISTOL_CLIP
          -
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
          -
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER_CLIP
          -
            - STR_BLASTER_LAUNCHER
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
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            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
          -
            - STR_PLASMA_RIFLE
            - STR_PLASMA_RIFLE_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_RIFLE_CLIP
          -
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
          -
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
          -
            - STR_BLASTER_LAUNCHER
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
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        highQty: 1
        dQty: 0
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            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
          -
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
          -
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
          -
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
            - STR_ALIEN_DATA_SLATE
          -
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
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            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
          -
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER_CLIP
          -
            - STR_BLASTER_LAUNCHER
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
      - alienRank: 1
        lowQty: 2
        highQty: 4
        dQty: 0
        percentageOutsideUfo: 0
        itemSets:
          -
            - STR_PLASMA_BLADE
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
          -
            - STR_PLASMA_RIFLE
            - STR_PLASMA_RIFLE_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_RIFLE_CLIP
          -
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
          -
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
          -
            - STR_BLASTER_LAUNCHER
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
            - STR_BLASTER_BOMB
      - alienRank: 0
        lowQty: 1
        highQty: 1
        dQty: 0
        percentageOutsideUfo: 0
        itemSets:
          -
            - STR_PLASMA_SWORD
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
          -
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
          -
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
          -
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_HEAVY_PLASMA_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
            - STR_ALIEN_DATA_SLATE
          -
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER_CLIP
            - STR_PLASMA_BLASTER_CLIP
            - STR_ALIEN_GRENADE
    width: 60
    length: 60
    height: 2
    terrains:
      - UBASE
    shade: 15
    script: ALIENBASE
    briefing:
      textOffset: -16
      background: BACK01.SCR
      showTarget: false
    objectiveType: 3
    markerName: STR_ALIEN_BASE
    markerIcon: 7
    genMission:
      STR_ALIEN_SUPPLY: 100
    genMissionFreq: 6
    alienBase: true    # this is only to tell new battle mode what to do with this deployment
    objectiveComplete: [STR_ALIEN_BASE_CONTROL_DESTROYED, 500]
    objectivePopup: STR_CONTROL_CENTER_DESTROYED
    points: 5

mapScripts:

  - type: BASELANDING
    commands:
    - type: addUFO
      UFOName: STR_PHARVEST
    - type: addUFO
      UFOName: STR_PABDUCT
    - type: addCraft
    - type: fillArea
« Last Edit: August 09, 2018, 09:58:07 pm by Tekamthi »

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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2923 on: August 09, 2018, 10:04:59 pm »
Yeah, it's no small feat to do it well.

Thanks for the initiative, hopefully this will be helpful somehow!

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Re: [COMPILATION] Final Mod Pack (FMP)
« Reply #2924 on: August 10, 2018, 02:05:51 am »
I hear ya... took me hours to figure out the rulesets, but for naught.  Definitely gained some appreciation for yours and others' work though.

Have you thought of using those pyramid rebirth UFOs in FMP?  seems it would fit well w/ the vanilla-focus, since these were hidden files in the original and all