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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #645 on: February 15, 2015, 06:15:20 am »
From my point of view they feel somehow more completed. It's feels like obvious progress. But I'm sure about red ribbons over red gradient. They are too close, I think.

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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #646 on: February 15, 2015, 06:36:01 am »
From my point of view they feel somehow more completed. It's feels like obvious progress. But I'm sure about red ribbons over red gradient. They are too close, I think.

Yeah, fortunately, there isn't as much red on red with the other "Awesome" Category medals.  There are a couple ways to mitigate it a little more, that I was already considering:  better shadows, and a glow around the ribbon.

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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #647 on: February 15, 2015, 06:49:47 am »
the quotes are kinda funny but othewise looking good.

About the background I kinda like it both ways. Second way is a bit nicer I guess.

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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #648 on: February 15, 2015, 07:19:57 am »
Yeah, fortunately, there isn't as much red on red with the other "Awesome" Category medals.  There are a couple ways to mitigate it a little more, that I was already considering:  better shadows, and a glow around the ribbon.
Glow? I guess better shadows around ribbon would look more xcomish. I didn't see any glow in xcom style concept. Maybe make falloff gradient from the sides to the center toward ribbon/medal?

P.S. Some of medals seems to be ovelapping the border, perhaps it'd be better to move them slightly higher?
Seeing on the PC (previously i've looked on a phone screen) - they seem better. Even red.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 09:09:48 am by volutar »

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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #649 on: February 15, 2015, 02:57:39 pm »
I feel the addition of the X-COM at the top really seals the deal. I like it!

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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #650 on: February 15, 2015, 03:54:30 pm »
Allright.  One more consideration, before I start re-mastering all of these. :)

I play the game with 1/2 resolution on the Geoscape as it feels best for gameplay for me.  As such the UFOPedia Entries don't fill the screen.  The new gradient box floats in a sea of black and sometimes feels a little too high?... idk... It just doesn't feel tied in at other resolutions.



I'm considering adding a Border to frame the whole entry, and this is quite similar to other UFOpedia entries.



So:  Border? or No Border?

Cheers, Ivan :D

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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #651 on: February 15, 2015, 04:33:00 pm »
I would say go for the border version. I use 2x resolution and think this looks actually a lot better than the first original version.
Maybe consider a background for the text box too? But black is fine too. As Volutar said, it is very close to the original X-Com style.
The medal is also easier to see with the edges.

When you're done, is there an update or a new full version released (recent nightly includes some nice bug fixes)?
I will update my german translation to the now complete Ufopedia when it comes out.

« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 04:36:20 pm by Neo23 »

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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #652 on: February 15, 2015, 04:42:23 pm »
I have a feeling volutar will be pro-border ;p as long as it fits the rest of the ufopedia. I like it too!

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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #653 on: February 15, 2015, 06:16:55 pm »
Nope. I think without border is better.
Because:

Reasoning why there's no border around the text is simple. It has black background. And borders are meant to be around some plates or backgrounds.

But current borders also better to be reworked, they are too thick and "blobby". 1-2 pixels is enough.

BTW, Blue ribbon over blue background (exactly the same blue) - makes them too mixed.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 06:41:49 pm by volutar »

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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #654 on: February 15, 2015, 06:40:33 pm »
Nope. I think without border is better.
Because:
https://ufopedia.csignal.org/ufopedia/099.png
But borders also better to be reworked, they are too thick and "blobby". 1-2 pixels is enough.

LOL!! So hard to please!
https://ufopedia.csignal.org/ufopedia/Hyper-Wave%20Decoder.html 

all the other borders are about 3 pixels, which is what I have set.

I think, I'll keep the all screen border. :)
« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 07:05:06 pm by ivandogovich »

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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #655 on: February 15, 2015, 06:43:31 pm »
LOL!! So hard to please!
https://ufopedia.csignal.org/ufopedia/Hyper-Wave%20Decoder.html 
I'll repeat:
Reasoning why there's no border around the text is simple. It has black background. And borders are meant to be around some plates or backgrounds.
By the same reason the HWD has border - it has not-black background inside. That's the vanilla concept.
https://ufopedia.csignal.org/ufopedia/all.php
There are NO ufopedia articles with borders around the black.
It's not about pleasing me.
BTW borders over these images is content-aware. It's not just a line.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 06:51:43 pm by volutar »

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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #656 on: February 15, 2015, 10:02:31 pm »
Must agree with volutar on this one. At first glimpse the border version looked better for me, but after checking with game it doesnt really need it at all. Just the border of medals alone did look weird, thats why I picked border version first time. Does the background of medal still work as color code ? Why not make it like some display cushion ?
« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 10:06:30 pm by vlad »

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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #657 on: February 15, 2015, 11:03:13 pm »
Must agree with volutar on this one. At first glimpse the border version looked better for me, but after checking with game it doesnt really need it at all. Just the border of medals alone did look weird, thats why I picked border version first time. Does the background of medal still work as color code ? Why not make it like some display cushion ?

The multiple background hues are by design as a way of categorizing the different types of award:

Blue = Normal
Green = Support
Purple = Wound
Black/grey = Somber
Red = Awesome


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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #658 on: February 16, 2015, 01:25:11 am »
If we need though, we can drop those color categories. Or find a different way to display them.

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Re: [STAT TRACKING] Soldier Diaries 1.0
« Reply #659 on: February 16, 2015, 03:16:28 am »
A uniform background can work. Have a different colored Uniform background for each type of medal. For the "awesome" medals, I assume they mean the really tough to get medals, so make it a black uniform background.

Uniform background as in a colored cloth pattern covering the background screen.