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EntryPoint vs ExitPoint?
« on: May 16, 2023, 09:31:59 am »
Before I upload a map and someone loses their team while trying to abort a mission I thought it would be better if I understood how this works.

In McdView (General) #59 SpecialType can be set to "1 EntryPoint" and "13 ExitPoint".

How are these two SpecialTypes used?


Do I use EntryPoint for the tiles that you can place X-Com units on and recover them if you abort the mission or is that ExitPoint?

At first I though EntryPoint tiles would be where the X-Com units will be spawning however in MapView2 (Node data) "Node Rank" can be set to "1 : XCOM" which I'm assuming acts as the spawn point for X-Com units.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2023, 09:38:12 am by The Martian »

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Re: EntryPoint vs ExitPoint?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2023, 10:28:56 am »
Entry point - where your units will survive when fall back.
Exit point - used in multi-stage missions. From there your units will proceed to the next level, if you use "abort mission" button.
For one stage missions you need to use only entry points.

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Re: EntryPoint vs ExitPoint?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2023, 02:55:43 pm »
Thank you that makes sense, the EntryPoint & ExitPoint tiles are only determining the fate of units on them when the abort button is pressed mid game and don't have anything to do with spawning units.

I still need to use MapView2 and place "Node Rank" "1 : XCOM" spawn nodes on each entry EntryPoint tile to actually make X-Com's units be able to spawn at the start of the battle.

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Re: EntryPoint vs ExitPoint?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2023, 04:00:05 pm »
I still need to use MapView2 and place "Node Rank" "1 : XCOM" spawn nodes on each entry EntryPoint tile to actually make X-Com's units be able to spawn at the start of the battle.

no i don't think so. XCOM spawnnodes are used in aLien base assault missions (ie. when there's not an XCOM landing craft)

[edit] I'm guessing there's a flag in some ruleset or other that you'd set, that tells OxC/e to use either spawnnodes or EntryTiles .....

[edit2] just took a look at the OxC code, it's not a ruleset flag but based on other configuration of the mission:

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BattleUnit *BattlescapeGenerator::addXCOMUnit(BattleUnit *unit)
{
if (_baseInventory)
{
    // skirmish mode
}
else if (_craft == 0 || !_craftDeployed)
{
    // no craft, use XCOM spawnnodes
}
else if (_craft && !_craft->getRules()->getDeployment().empty())
{
    // has craft, has deployment rules, use MCD EntryPoints
}
else
{
    // fallback, also uses MCD EntryPoints
}
}
« Last Edit: May 16, 2023, 04:26:14 pm by kevL »

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Re: EntryPoint vs ExitPoint?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2023, 11:02:59 pm »
By my experience, X-Com spawning nodes are required on entry tiles, if it's part of terrain (not a craft, etc.).

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Re: EntryPoint vs ExitPoint?
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2023, 10:08:35 am »
and don't have anything to do with spawning units.
Wrong. You must put some entry points on map to spawn X-com soldiers properly.

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Re: EntryPoint vs ExitPoint?
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2023, 06:31:25 pm »
Do I still need entry points on a map if X-Com will arrive via their craft or does the X-Com craft's map bring its own entry points with it?

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Re: EntryPoint vs ExitPoint?
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2023, 07:09:14 pm »
Do I still need entry points on a map if X-Com will arrive via their craft or does the X-Com craft's map bring its own entry points with it?

Craft doesn't need entry nodes, only the right kind of floor (in the MCD, byte 59).