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Offline weydi

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Stuck in the tech tree advancement.
« on: April 18, 2016, 12:19:48 pm »
Hello everyone,

I can't figure out why, but I do not have any more research projects available. I checked the tech tree viewer and noticed those "Broken" guys that you can research (like "Broken Academy Engineer", "Broken Guildmaster" etc.) that may be what gets me stuck. For some reason I've never been able to research those. Am I missing something here ? And what is the difference between for example "Broken Academy Engineer" and the regular "Academy Engineer" research ?

I should also mention that I am using a save that I started in version 0.97D (I also imported my config file after each update). I did not find any particular instruction to upgrade my save for version 0.98, but I guess I may just have miss it and my game/save could be bugged because of that. So once again, please tell me if I missed something about it.

Sorry for my english and thank you in advance for your answers.

EDIT : Okay, seems like I've identified (at least partially) the problem. I need to research "Interrogation Techniques", but I never been able to do so, even if I do have the requirements (diplomacy and slavery according to the tech tree viewer). Any idea why I have this issue ?
« Last Edit: April 18, 2016, 12:37:28 pm by weydi »

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Re: Stuck in the tech tree advancement.
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2016, 12:37:43 pm »
Broken individuals are what you get after you interrogate a captive in the manufacturing screen. To do this "manufacture" you need Diplomacy tech. Researching a broken individual yields different techs then a normal captive. These techs are some of the major bottle necks to progression. For example high end laser tech require a broken academy engineer.

Diplomacy tech is also bottle-necked behind "pillow books" a tech item you must manufacture yourself from Mutant Porn.

Alot of this mods tech is dependent on manufacturing something yourself,and then researching said thing, as a median step to progress

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Re: Stuck in the tech tree advancement.
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2016, 12:53:54 pm »
Wow, yep I think that solved to problem... Thank you so much. I really thought my save was definitely screwed up.
Am I the only one who missed that ? I feel so stupid for having missed a single item to manufacture that has completely block my entire progression...
I mean are you supposed to guess that the key to advanced technology is porn  :o ?

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Re: Stuck in the tech tree advancement.
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2016, 01:27:58 pm »
No you are not the only one. The particular clue for the pillow book is probably the most obscure in the mod. And obscurity abounds if your not paying careful attention to every description in the pedia. Everything is provided to us if we care to pay attention and do the tech research. However the sheer density of stuff makes vital clues easy to miss without outside tools that have superior formatting. There is only so much that can be done within the engine which is at its base a recreation of a 22 year old game and uses much the assets of the original as a framework.   

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Re: Stuck in the tech tree advancement.
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2016, 04:38:26 pm »
No you are not the only one. The particular clue for the pillow book is probably the most obscure in the mod.

That particular obstacle was removed in the latest version.