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The elements, which currently bear placeholder names, will be officially named by the teams that discovered them in the coming months. Element 113 will be the first element to be named in Asia.

“IUPAC has now initiated the process of formalising names and symbols for these elements temporarily named as ununtrium, (Uut or element 113), ununpentium (Uup, element 115), ununseptium (Uus, element 117), and ununoctium (Uuo, element 118).”

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/jan/04/periodic-tables-seventh-row-finally-filled-as-four-new-elements-are-added

How do you think does it make sense to make a petition o something for naming element 115 "Elerium"?
« Last Edit: January 06, 2016, 01:38:21 am by 2xG »

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Re: New periodic table elements (113, 115, 117, 118) officially added!
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2016, 06:04:59 am »
if there were as many elements as there are stars, sure, i'd be all for it. but in the limited scope we have on the periodic table, i can think of much more deserving contenders.

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Re: New periodic table elements (113, 115, 117, 118) officially added!
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 01:30:50 pm »
Warboy is right of course, but I would call it Elerium anyway, just for personal amusement. (Which I won't, because element 115 only exists for a fraction of a second, so it's highly unlikely I will ever really deal with it myself.)

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Re: New periodic table elements (113, 115, 117, 118) officially added!
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 01:55:00 pm »
I personally really don't like that the new elements are named after people (Curium, Einsteinium, Mendelevium, Nobelium, ...) or places (Americium, Californium, Dubnium, Berkelium, ...).

Even if these people or countries have discovered them, it just doesn't feel right! Names of elements should (in my opinion) be as neutral as possible, without any obvious or hidden meaning.

Elerium (as far as I know) does not mean anything at all, and is a perfect candidate for a new element name.

PS: btw. people have tried petitions already :) not very successfully: https://www.change.org/p/international-union-of-pure-and-applied-chemistry-iupac-name-element-115-elerium

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Re: New periodic table elements (113, 115, 117, 118) officially added!
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2016, 01:57:51 pm »
Maybe "Elerium" is not the element itself, but an industrial name for its stable isotope? After all the Elerium that we know is very stable, which is highly atypical for an element with so high atomic number.

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Re: New periodic table elements (113, 115, 117, 118) officially added!
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2016, 02:01:39 pm »
Actually, I did not try to advocate Elerium... it can also be Xyzium for all I care.

Just don't name it after a person or a place... it's uncool.

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Re: New periodic table elements (113, 115, 117, 118) officially added!
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2016, 04:21:49 pm »
Just don't name it after a person or a place... it's uncool.

Unless its Meridium or Ivanium.  Then its cool. ;)

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Re: New periodic table elements (113, 115, 117, 118) officially added!
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2016, 05:06:14 pm »
Unless its Meridium or Ivanium.  Then its cool. ;)

Hobbesium sounds much better ;)

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Re: New periodic table elements (113, 115, 117, 118) officially added!
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2016, 08:05:24 pm »
idk, i'm a feynmanium (Fy) supporter myself.

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Re: New periodic table elements (113, 115, 117, 118) officially added!
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2016, 10:13:46 am »
hellrazorium sounds cool,
but i would prefer Stallmanium in any way!

But calling element 115 Elerium would also be cool.

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Re: New periodic table elements (113, 115, 117, 118) officially added!
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2016, 02:07:32 am »
Even Motorhead fans want one of the new elements to be named after the band's recently deceased leader, so E118 would be 'Lemmium' (and they already have more than 100.000 signatures on their petition).

If you guys don't hurry and decide that E115 should be 'Hobbesium' then we risk that E115 ends up as 'Barbium' or 'Bieberium'. You wouldn't want that would you? ;)
« Last Edit: January 08, 2016, 02:10:52 am by Hobbes »

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Re: New periodic table elements (113, 115, 117, 118) officially added!
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2016, 02:29:37 pm »
should obviously be elerium.
come on chemists do it.

(at least on the wikipedia page, there should be the "Trivia" section, telling about the fact that element 115 is known as elerium in the x-com series).

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Re: New periodic table elements (113, 115, 117, 118) officially added!
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2016, 02:54:04 pm »
should obviously be elerium.
come on chemists do it.

(at least on the wikipedia page, there should be the "Trivia" section, telling about the fact that element 115 is known as elerium in the x-com series).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materials_science_in_science_fiction - scroll down until the Ununpentium entry.

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Re: New periodic table elements (113, 115, 117, 118) officially added!
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2016, 01:13:58 pm »
hellrazorium sounds cool,
but i would prefer Stallmanium in any way!

You mean Stalinium? :)

Also the elements were named after places/countries for a long, long time (Osmium, Polon come immediately to mind), so it's kind of tradition. Naming them after people is comparatively new, though. I think the most bitchin' post-XIX century element name is Thorium, though :)

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Re: New periodic table elements (113, 115, 117, 118) officially added!
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2016, 08:42:27 pm »
Haha, have you seen new X-files 10x01? Thier UFO fueled with 115 element! I knew it! Ha!