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Offline DarkGam3r

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Tasoth Suicide Bombers - Is This a Bug or a Feature?
« on: August 20, 2015, 05:47:57 pm »
Quite a few times in my ongoing opentdfd game I'd end up in situations where one soldier goes one to one against a Tasoth in a confined space. Three things tend to happen.
1. The Tasoth will run away for a more strategic position.
2. It will shoot my aquanaut.
3. It will prime a grenade and toss it at the feet of my aquanaut, despite being so close to him, this taking both of them out.

Am I supposed to be living a reenactment of the WWII American invasion on Japan or is this just a funny bug?

Offline Warboy1982

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Re: Tasoth Suicide Bombers - Is This a Bug or a Feature?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2015, 01:06:39 am »
feature. aliens aren't terribly afraid to use kamikaze tactics, especially when they have low morale.

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Re: Tasoth Suicide Bombers - Is This a Bug or a Feature?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2015, 01:10:15 am »
Be glad the Tasoth wasn't carrying a DPL ;)

The other side of the coin is that the aliens will also blow themselves while alone (or in the company of other aliens) once in a while.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2015, 01:11:54 am by Hobbes »

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Re: Tasoth Suicide Bombers - Is This a Bug or a Feature?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2015, 01:13:53 am »
I take it the days of going up next to an alien carrying a DPL and using the fact they won't blow themselves up with you are over. Damn I'll have to come up with a new strategy!

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Re: Tasoth Suicide Bombers - Is This a Bug or a Feature?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2015, 01:14:59 am »
I take it the days of going up next to an alien carrying a DPL and using the fact they won't blow themselves up with you are over.

I remember this happening on vanilla TFTD, as well as the original UFO, I suppose.

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Re: Tasoth Suicide Bombers - Is This a Bug or a Feature?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2015, 01:19:39 am »
yeah, basically they tally the number of estimated friendly and enemy kills and weigh them against each other, factoring in morale, current health level, difficulty... and probably a few more. but at the end of the day, they can still choose to go out in a blaze of glory. if nothing else, it denies you the points for a kill, prevents them being captured alive and might even take a few of your guys with it.

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Re: Tasoth Suicide Bombers - Is This a Bug or a Feature?
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2015, 11:39:56 am »
yeah, basically they tally the number of estimated friendly and enemy kills and weigh them against each other, factoring in morale, current health level, difficulty... and probably a few more. but at the end of the day, they can still choose to go out in a blaze of glory. if nothing else, it denies you the points for a kill, prevents them being captured alive and might even take a few of your guys with it.

What kind of factors do they take into account? Can this behaviour be influenced by intelligence and aggression settings?

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Re: Tasoth Suicide Bombers - Is This a Bug or a Feature?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2015, 11:41:26 am »
... they're listed in the post that you quoted.

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Re: Tasoth Suicide Bombers - Is This a Bug or a Feature?
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2015, 11:52:23 am »
... they're listed in the post that you quoted.

Ok nevermind myself asking.

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Re: Tasoth Suicide Bombers - Is This a Bug or a Feature?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2015, 11:09:12 pm »
... they're listed in the post that you quoted.

I'm curious though if all that was present on the original. This is purely because the original AI has always been a riddle to me and you're the best person to ask about it :)

But I'll also understand if you don't want to post it all over the forums and risk major spoilers.

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Re: Tasoth Suicide Bombers - Is This a Bug or a Feature?
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2015, 09:50:59 pm »
Do Tasoth panic really easily? Killed 2 one a downed transport and got a few panics and even a berserk.

I would assume nothing has been done to alien behaviour/stats.