[DONE][SUGGESTION] startingCondition for each mission stage.

[Nord]

Please, make different startingConditions work for second-stage missions.
Example: first stage is open ground, second is inside caves or building, so no 2x2 units can pass. Or, in my case, second stage have EM-interferences, so no electronic devices possible.
Now i must disable tanks for whole mission, but they can be useful in first stage.
Thanks.

[Meridian]

Sorry, that is so complicated it's close to impossible.
Both starting condition handling and next stage handling of item stage transfer and item recovery is very complicated and both together... just no.
I will formally put it on a todolist, but 99% it will never happen.

Not to mention, things like e.g. allowed craft don't even logically make any sense. If your craft is allowed on stage 1 but not allowed on stage 2... what happens... auto-abort or what?
So supporting the whole startingConditions concept is literally impossible.

Maybe if we make a new limited concept just for stage transitions... maybe.

[Nord]

Oh. Well then, no more tanks on dimensional portals.
Thanks anyway.

[Meridian]

OXCE 7.5 supports armor transformation on HWPs

You could transform their armor during stage transition into a new armor which doesn't allow movement

That's just an ugly workaround of course... I still have this request on the todolist and will try to come up with a proper solution in OXCE 7.6

[Meridian]

I can add `forbiddenArmorsInNextStage` list to either starting conditions or to enviro effects.

Option 1/ If added to starting conditions, it would mean armors are banned in stage 2, 3, 4, etc. Or in other words, in all stages except stage 1.

Option 2/ If added to enviro effects, when moving from stage A to stage B, the list of banned armors would have to be defined already in stage A.
Defining it on stage B is not possible, because the terrain (and thus potential enviro effect) depends on RNG, and the RNG dice are rolled too late for this feature to work.

Option 3/ both of the above

Which option is better for you? Probably option 3?

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Also, what should happen if you kill all aliens in stage 1, but you only have banned units left? Can you move to stage 2? Or do you lose automatically? Something else?

[Solarius Scorch]

I do not use this feature to such lengths, so frankly I can't say for sure; but at a glance, option 1 feels like it's good enough for me, and definitely more clear.
But really, I lack the experience with various cases.

[Meridian]

Added option 1 for now.

If you kill all enemies, but you have only banned units left, the mission will fail (immediately after stage 2 starts).

Abort mission UI also counts banned units as "in field / outside" instead of "in exit".


Example (no tanks in second stage of Cydonia):

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startingConditions:
  - type: NO_TANKS_IN_SECOND_STAGE
    forbiddenArmorsInNextStage: [TANK_ARMOR, HOVERTANK_ARMOR]

alienDeployments:
  - type: STR_MARS_CYDONIA_LANDING
    startingCondition: NO_TANKS_IN_SECOND_STAGE


[Nord]

Is this option allready active in OXCE 7.8? Because i see no effect...

[Meridian]

yes, it is

[Nord]

Oh, now i see. It was a typo.
Thank you, it is very useful.