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Modding => Released Mods => The X-Com Files => Topic started by: krautbernd on May 26, 2023, 12:07:24 am
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Seeing how people are actually still using the RO mod I might as well push this one out too.
(https://abload.de/img/screen011obdld.png)
While I find the sickbay to be a nice early game facility that gets your agents back in the field faster (provided they survived being shot at, set on fire or being set on fore by being shot at), it starts to feel a bit outdated mid-to-late game, what with all this advanced alien tech laying around. Why not use one to solve the other and also get those agents fighting eldritch horrors a bit of a sanity boost?
Currently doesn't require sickbay as a prerequisite.
Initial release, let me know if you encounter any problems.
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Looks interesting, I wouldn't be against adding this to the main mod if you're okay with it.
The sprite is a bit simplistic, but it shouldn't be hard to sex it up.
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Agreed. Some update on the sick bay and additional speed-up for sanity recovery would be much appreciated. I haven't checked if the enhancement is properly balanced, but that's up to SS in any case.
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Looks interesting, I wouldn't be against adding this to the main mod if you're okay with it.
Sure, go ahead.
Attached is an updated version with a new base sprite (be advised that my paint skills suck), the medbay now also requires the sickbay as prior research and can built over the sickbay.
Changelog
1.01:
- requires sickbay research
- can be built over sickbay
- new sprite
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Thanks you. I will review it and probably incorporate it, although some edits are possible, depending on results.
I think the name should also be changed, as by my experience people will routinely mistake one facility for the other... Even I will probably have this problem. Maybe call it a "Cloning Bay"? (For cloning organs of course, not whole people.)
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Regeneration Chamber?
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Regeneration Chamber?
Why not.
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Honestly I'd prefer something like "Improved Sickbay" or "Advanced Sickbay" (as with the science laboratories) if you want to keep this as an upgrade to the normal sickbay. "Regeneration Chamber" doesn't really encompass everything that the facility is meant to provide.
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Well, Sickbay doesn't really encompass the bio-enhancement, either. And the rest is some sort of regeneration one way or the other.
"Advanced X" is just so... unimaginative.
Anyway, I guess it's up to Solarius what he'll go with in the end.
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Well, Sickbay doesn't really encompass the bio-enhancement, either. And the rest is some sort of regeneration one way or the other.
"Advanced X" is just so... unimaginative.
Anyway, I guess it's up to Solarius what he'll go with in the end.
"Sick Bay" is commonly used to refer to navy hospitals and medical facilities on and offshore, and Medbay is commonly used in SciFi to refer to such facilities on spacecraft. Hence why the mod and the facility is called such - essentially a more advanced version of the sickbay, which is exactely what it is supposed to be.
"Advanced X" is in-line with other facilites or items such as the Advanced HQ or Advanced Laboratory, Advanced Healing Spray etc. I don't see anything wrong with using "non-imaginative" language when it isn't needed and fittingly describes what the facility is suppsoed to represent.
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Love this idea.
Will phycological counselling include Restoring some sanity ?
(EDIT) Sorry didnt read the OP well enough.
Great idea.
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"Sick Bay" is commonly used to refer to navy hospitals and medical facilities on and offshore, and Medbay is commonly used in SciFi to refer to such facilities on spacecraft. Hence why the mod and the facility is called such - essentially a more advanced version of the sickbay, which is exactely what it is supposed to be.
I'm not disputing this, I just personally find it confusing and not user friendly. I wouldn't be able to tell one from another if randomly asked. And to be honest I have no idea how to translate it into any other language I know (even "sick bay" was pretty hard to find in any dictionary, making it very niche).
I hate to make this argument, since it's your work and I am trying to change as little as possible out of respect; but I just can't see this working, sorry.
"Advanced X" is in-line with other facilites or items such as the Advanced HQ or Advanced Laboratory, Advanced Healing Spray etc. I don't see anything wrong with using "non-imaginative" language when it isn't needed and fittingly describes what the facility is suppsoed to represent.
A valid point. I also prefer imaginative over non-imaginative naming, but only when there's a good candidate.
So I vote for "Advanced Sick Bay".
Will phycological counselling include Restoring some sanity ?
Nah, it would cut into living quarters' territory. We can't have a bonus, only the facility with the highest Sanity recovery counts. (If someone knows a solution, please let me know.)
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Nah, it would cut into living quarters' territory. We can't have a bonus, only the facility with the highest Sanity recovery counts. (If someone knows a solution, please let me know.)
The current mod has sanity recovery of 5, which is okay but not that fancy (though I admit I liked that feature in the description). Large living quarters already provides 4, regular ones 3 while sensorium has 8. With current balancing 5 is not a major selling point for this enhancement. I'd actually vote for raising it to 6 and increasing its price considerably, given that it's an advanced facility. But it's your call, obviously.
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The current mod has sanity recovery of 5, which is okay but not that fancy (though I admit I liked that feature in the description). Large living quarters already provides 4, regular ones 3 while sensorium has 8. With current balancing 5 is not a major selling point for this enhancement. I'd actually vote for raising it to 6 and increasing its price considerably, given that it's an advanced facility. But it's your call, obviously.
You mean for the advanced sick bay? Yeah, I have no issues with this.
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I'm not disputing this, I just personally find it confusing and not user friendly. I wouldn't be able to tell one from another if randomly asked. And to be honest I have no idea how to translate it into any other language I know (even "sick bay" was pretty hard to find in any dictionary, making it very niche).
I hate to make this argument, since it's your work and I am trying to change as little as possible out of respect; but I just can't see this working, sorry.
I already gave you permission to use the mod, you can rename the facility however you like - this was just in reply to Juku's "but the sickbay also doesn't cover XYZ".
Will phycological counselling include Restoring some sanity ?
Nah, it would cut into living quarters' territory. We can't have a bonus, only the facility with the highest Sanity recovery counts. (If someone knows a solution, please let me know.)
You mean for the advanced sick bay? Yeah, I have no issues with this.
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I already gave you permission to use the mod, you can rename the facility however you like - this was just in reply to Juku's "but the sickbay also doesn't cover XYZ".
Right, thank you. I just wanted to provide some background in case you really don't like it.
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I meant to say that I am not against giving this facility some Sanity recovery, hypothetically. But I am not convinced either.
Also, attaching an updated sprite (by Brain).
EDIT: Integration with the main mod complete. The only change I made was decreasing research time, since you need to research all its components separately anyway.
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EDIT: Integration with the main mod complete. The only change I made was decreasing research time, since you need to research all its components separately anyway.
Yay I did a contribution :D
Do you have any plans on integrating more uses for what are otherwise "junk" items? I think at least the multitool and welder could be meaningfully integrated into other advanced facilities. Or at least have some additional use beside being one-time research objects.
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Yay I did a contribution :D
I'm also very happy about it. :)
Do you have any plans on integrating more uses for what are otherwise "junk" items? I think at least the multitool and welder could be meaningfully integrated into other advanced facilities. Or at least have some additional use beside being one-time research objects.
If you have any suggestions, I'm open.
Maybe make a drone chassis with a built-in repair kit?
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Any use for otherwise junk items would be fine, but I was thinking more along the lines of existing facilities. Currently the improved lab requires elerium and alloys, and the advanced lab requires elerium as well as power sources and navigation. Given how plentiful elerium is and what other uses it already has this seems a bit redundant, especially for the advanced lab (as elerium is already used for constructing power sources), and both navigation and power sources already have other uses. It's also not quite clear to me what purpose all that raw elerium serves.
I think alien multitools and alloy welders might be of better use, given that we are working with alien tech. Lore-wise, trying to reverse-engineer this tech might be a lot easier if X-COM had the tools used to maintain said tech, wouldn't it? The sensorium (and PSI amp as far as items are concernded) is another example where the building materials approximately match the in-game lore/use of the facility. None of these materials are really all that rare to impact player progression, but they add a lore-friendly use for them to make them more than junk items. Large workshops / Tritanium Matrix might be additional facilities that might make use of alloy welders.
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Speaking of improving facilities, it definitely should be possible to upgrade drone bays to a newer version (e.g. minigun -> laser) so that you don't need to trash the previous one first.