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[krautbernd]

You CAN simply replace one with another... what I am reading is that you don't want to do it simply... instead you want to do it with some supercomplicated logic so that the game does it AUTOMAGICALLY for you.

To be fair, you asked me what i had in mind. I also wouldn't call it 'automagically' - what i'm looking for is a way to inherit armor types (or soldiers types).

When you mod, everything existing is copypasted without you having to copypaste it.

Yes, but in order to actually modify stuff i have to copy and paste it. There is no simple way to add a new soldier type that references existing soldier types in regards to what armor it is able to use. I have to replace each unit list of every armor that soldier type is supposed to use. Why can't we simply reference an existing soldier type? Something like

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soldiers:
  - type: STR_CUSTOM_SOLDIER
     [Stats...]
    armor: STR_SUIT_UC
    armorForAvatar: STR_SUIT_UC
    armorRef: STR_SOLDIER
And the game would allow that unit to use all armors that contain STR_SOLDIER in their unit list. But i guess that would fall under the 'global replace' rule?

[Yankes]

If you want some rule set have common part there is already tool for that: `refNode`

This allow you to define somewhere in yaml file some common part and then reuse it in other places:

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items:
   - &STR_LASER_RIFLE           # Let's mark laser rifle info with an anchor
     type: STR_LASER_RIFLE
     size: 0.2
     costSell: 36900
     weight: 8
 #
 # a million other attributes...
 #
   - type: STR_LASER_SNIPER_RIFLE
     refNode: *STR_LASER_RIFLE  # First, let's inherit everything from the STR_LASER_RIFLE anchor.
     bigSprite: xxx             # And now let's give it a new sprite,
     accuracyAimed: 160         # increase aimed shot accuracy
     tuAuto: 0                  # and disable auto shot.

This is example from beginning of https://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php/Ruleset_Reference_Nightly_(OpenXcom)#

In your case you could do:

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dummySoldiers:
   - &STR_SOLDIER_REF
    [all common stats...]

soldiers:
  - type: STR_CUSTOM_SOLDIER
    refNode: *STR_SOLDIER_REF
    [all custom stats...]


[krautbernd]

If you want some rule set have common part there is already tool for that: `refNode`

Yeah, i know abour refNode, but as far as i can tell it doesn't work across different ruleset (and by extension across mods), and it can't be used as a placeholder in lists (unless i am mistaken).

[Yankes]

This is true, this work because it depend on yaml node references. To have some more then we would need rewrite all code responsible for loading rulesets, possible but will take lot of time to do. This could complicate and slow down loading code if done incorrectly.

If lot of modders have same problem case like you then it worth fix in code. If only few then we only transferring work to others and this is ineffectual because there is more modders than programmers (only Meridain is working on OXCE "full" time).

[krautbernd]

This is true, this work because it depend on yaml node references. To have some more then we would need rewrite all code responsible for loading rulesets, possible but will take lot of time to do. This could complicate and slow down loading code if done incorrectly.

If lot of modders have same problem case like you then it worth fix in code. If only few then we only transferring work to others and this is ineffectual because there is more modders than programmers (only Meridain is working on OXCE "full" time).

Yeah, i had a look at the YAML documentation beforehand and wasn't able to find anything along the lines of what i was looking for. I doubt that many others would have a need for this, seeing how this is basically for a submod.

[davide]

See attribute "addOnly": https://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php/Ruleset_Reference_Nightly_(OpenXcom)#Terrains

 

thank you very much

[Meridian]

Thanks for new version !
But big pb ! 

v5.6.1
TFTD

Nota ;
C:\_GAMES\OpenXcom_Ex\standard\xcom2\Resources\UI\globe_tftd.png   exist !
902 octets - 27x3

New Game... create first base... named first base... ok... Boom !

Found the issue.
Fixed.
Download new version at the usual place.

[BlackStaff]

Found the issue.
Fixed.
Download new version at the usual place.

Thank you very much !

[mercy]

Reverse the Throw Grenade vs.  Unprime grenade menu order?

Its very un-intuitive and counterproductive the current way. I want it the intuitive, natural  way:

Throw Grenade
Unprime grenade

Naturally in combat I want to throw the FRIGGIN' grenade really fast and I do NOT wish to FCKN BUMP into its deactivate menu.. right? 
Was it a Microsoft Engineer who coded this like placing the START button right beside the SHUTDOWN   so the computer can be shut down accidentally??? 

[Meridian]

I completely agree.
Whenever modders enable the unprime option, I disable it locally... it's easy, you can do it yourself.
Who would ever need to unprime a grenade, right?

[mercy]

I completely agree.
Whenever modders enable the unprime option, I disable it locally... it's easy, you can do it yourself.
Who would ever need to unprime a grenade, right?

Good! How to disable this option?
I scoured the files for the string "unprime", but only found it in the yml and by every grenade.  There must be a central switch for this "feature" to be erased from existence?

[Meridian]

Good! How to disable this option?
I scoured the files for the string "unprime", but only found it in the yml and by every grenade.  There must be a central switch for this "feature" to be erased from existence?

Search and replace, takes a second.

[mercy]

Search and replace, takes a second.

The order of the two menu items is defined somewhere specifically? 
Or you mean, just go to
items_XCOMFILES.rul
and delete all
    unprimeActionName: STR_UNPRIME_GRENADE

?

[Meridian]

I mean just delete
or replace with unprimeActionName: ""
or replace with #unprimeActionName: STR_UNPRIME_GRENADE
or replace with notWorking: STR_UNPRIME_GRENADE

or whatever kind of disable you prefer

[BlackStaff]

Personally I like to have both (prime/unprime) for each grenade and explosive. 
I use it... sometimes.
So I went through the "items" file and added the missing lines. 
Everyone has their own preferences!