Treasure extraction?

[Wayans]

Didn't managed to find any topic before but probably i'm not the first one asking this...

What's the point on bag of coin,money purse,etc... extraction?

[Rince Wind]

The point comes later in the research tree with "forgery".

[Eddie]

You get more money by extraction.
The credit chips you get from extraction are worth more than just selling the item. You get about 10% more.

Same with the small ship engines. When you take them apart and sell the components you get more cash than selling them whole

[ivandogovich]

Counterfeiting allows for huge returns on credit chip profits, and of course Treasure Chests are extracted mainly for the gems which are critical for end-game gear.

However, early on, sometimes it makes sense to sell the purses and bags wholesale, especially if you haven't unlocked their extraction tech yet, or runt hours are too hard to come by.  The quick cash may help pay for another brainer!

[cc]

However, early on, sometimes it makes sense to sell the purses and bags wholesale, especially if you haven't unlocked their extraction tech yet, or runt hours are too hard to come by.

Purses and bags only take five hours to extract. Those should always be available.

[Ethereal_Medic]

You usually lose out on the very first bag of cash and money purse due to research but after that extract them every time through out the game.
The amount of chips is too good to skip and you can 'save' some for the mint IF you insist building it at all.

[Martin]

Counterfeiting allows for huge returns on credit chip profits, and of course Treasure Chests are extracted mainly for the gems which are critical for end-game gear.

Most of that stuff actually comes to play in the midgame if you got lucky and focused on the right research.

[Wayans]

But I used the calc and extraction gives less cash than the wholesale sell

[ivandogovich]

But I used the calc and extraction gives less cash than the wholesale sell

Can you show your calculations?

[Ethereal_Medic]

But I used the calc and extraction gives less cash than the wholesale sell

This seems incorrect to me.
You get alot more chips out of the bags and purses than selling them wrapped up.

All chips out of the purse is worth 65.800 $ against 60.000 $ unpacked.
5.800 profit to extract them.

[Wayans]

OMG! Bashing my brains out and punishing myself for not being able to see how it's profitable I just noticed the scroll bar.... I wasn't counting all the chips because haven't noticed you can actually scroll down to see more kinds of chips -_-U

[Ethereal_Medic]

No problem.
Check the details once you try to build complex and advanced items and ships later on.
Sometimes you need more than 5 different items.

[khade]

How much is 5 runt hours worth?  we need to account for that in the calculations

[cc]

How much is 5 runt hours worth?  we need to account for that in the calculations

This depends on your tech level and other available projects. Since treasure extractions are among the highest $/hr things (and certainly higher than anything you can do repeatedly), it's a non-issue, though.

[Ethereal_Medic]

The purse and bag themselves cost 0 $ to start.
The cost-efficiency needs to be determined by some changing factors:

The maximum amount of runts you can assign to any project
The amount of times you can repeat a certain project
Another project you can compare it to (considering you've the tech and infrastructure to do it)

Early on you barely have 60-80 runts at best (3x extractor + still).
Money purses are common but those can't be mass-extracted for a whole month.
Moonshine can be made from thin air and x-grog can be made once you've the tech for it.
In the first year you're best set to mass produce chateau and grog.
You can't save space and (wo)manpower to purchase raw materials to press them into good-selling products.
Money is scarce and are better invested in guns and tools. Grog pays your bills but can't kill your opposition.