[TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.62)

[doctoxic]

thanks for the update

i think i'll wait for the next patch before continuing (assuming all your updates are save game compatible)

cheers

[Nord]

As you wish, but nothing prevents you from continuing the game right now.
And i can not say when next update will be.

[doctoxic]

hi nord

i have run into a problem , probably my messup but i'll mention it anyway

I tried the xcom files mod using the same install as for twots (as it also uses extender) then changed back to twots after coping in the new file (no crashes now)

however i had been fiddling with some of the other standard mods and now i have a missmatch

anyway - the end result is all my planes and squad weapons have dissapeared - so i may well have messed up the (re)install - any thoughts?

[Nord]

anyway - the end result is all my planes and squad weapons have dissapeared - so i may well have messed up the (re)install - any thoughts?

Looks like you has loaded modded save with mod switched off.

[doctoxic]

thanks, that was it,  doh!

however its game over as just got wiped on the base defense mission
are they meant to come that early (only my third mission)

cheers

[Nord]

It is that base defense that was in savegame you uploaded? It is not lethal. I can suggest

Spoiler:

remove newtsuits and buy more rifles

But how do you managed to get retaliation mission in second month? It can not be like that. It must not be...

[kikimoristan]

tollworkout, thank you. Acid damage type works as intended, and his principe described in ufopedia. But while checking it, i found four other bugs, which will be fixed soon. Scientific (ok, looking-like-scientific) explanations of SciFi can be called my hobby. 
ohartenstein23,  using poisons is a good idea, maybe i implement it somehow. Possible aside of acid... Thanks.
 And about owerpowered lasers - you do not played mod, i think? Usability of lasers is very limited in this case. But if you has played and think lasers is OP, i can balance them.

Nord back to the original discussion You ain't getting away that easy > JK

I m pretty huge  scifi nerd and while I enjoy fantastic pseudo-scientific elements  I am pretty big science nerd too and I kinda like when the two blend well.


Poison type damage over time  could indeed work quite well in TFTD both on land and under water!  In fact  this is precisely how Crocodile Hunter "Steve Irwin"  died swimming around venomous fish. RIP But heres the thing.  Scientifically poison , venom and toxin are different. Organisms that bite you  would be  venomous . But if they spit it then it would be toxic or acid? Toxin = bad substances made by living things. Venom = bad substances made by living things that are injected on bite or sting.  Although colloquially any bad substance is a poison .  Just giving you more ammunition for possible names for a new damage type . 


In regards to laser they are supposed to be 50% weaker under water . Would it be possible to make it so that laser deal more damage on land than under water? 

[Nord]

But if they spit it then it would be toxic or acid?

Animal, spitting toxines, is still called venomous.
But acid is not from that family. In fact, i know no animal or plant, using acid as weapon. Except lemons.
And for use poison as weapon against aquanaut, we need to penetrate his armor first. Well, if his suit is sealed. But acid can penetrate armor by self, though.

In regards to laser they are supposed to be 50% weaker under water . Would it be possible to make it so that laser deal more damage on land than under water?

It is possible for armor sets, very doubt about weapons. But why 50%? Water disperse light around 1000 times more than air. So i decided to divide laser weapons to surface-only and underwater-short-ranged.

[yrizoud]

There are ants which can spray acid (formic acid).
https://gfycat.com/WholeFairCat#?format=gif

[Nord]

Yes, of course.
And "Dolium" snail. Google say so.

[kikimoristan]

Animal, spitting toxines, is still called venomous.
But acid is not from that family. In fact, i know no animal or plant, using acid as weapon. Except lemons.
And for use poison as weapon against aquanaut, we need to penetrate his armor first. Well, if his suit is sealed. But acid can penetrate armor by self, though.It is possible for armor sets, very doubt about weapons. But why 50%? Water disperse light around 1000 times more than air. So i decided to divide laser weapons to surface-only and underwater-short-ranged.

Actually Skunk uses acid as a defense.  I mean this is real life not Alien   Skunk anal glands produce thiols which are sulfur based alcohols wtih an acitity of pK of 3-6  . In comparison citric acid  which is actually made up of 3 different acids each with pK 5 4 and 3 . So technically Skunk is as acidic as a lemon hahah

And regarding lasers yes that makes sense

There are ants which can spray acid (formic acid).
https://gfycat.com/WholeFairCat#?format=gif

ok so formic acid pk is 3.77

That's good to know  tho. I am working on a story about mutated giant ants. They can now spit acid. my Antmen race shoulda had that acid spiting ability

[Nord]

Ok, i am stuck, give up and asking for help.
Trying to add new map without craft landing site (like dungeon). But gain error everytime: "no xcom units could be placed..."
Recipe: chose new battle, chose "ancient naga city".
Please, help me somebody.

[Solarius Scorch]

Please check:
1) Do the floor tiles have the X-Com entry flag? (In MapEdit)
2) Do you have X-Com spawn nodes in .rmp?
Both things are needed.

Also @tollworkout, would it be OK if I used your Antmen in X-Com Files?

[Nord]

Please check:
2) Do you have X-Com spawn nodes in .rmp?

*Beats his head in the table*
Of course! I am stupid.

One more thing:
What do you think, how must be armed this armor suit? Now it is fixed sonic cannon and grenade thrower, but i'm ready for other suggestions.

[nev3rm0re]

I'm having trouble - weapons are not displaying in the inventory (except original ones). I'm using latest .dmg version of openxcom and the version of twots from this thread. Anyone knows how to solve this issue on Mac?