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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.46)
« Reply #1575 on: May 18, 2020, 04:35:10 pm »
Sadly, but gotta downgrade version because of infinite bombing attack on same base. And I just getting message about it without any ship on sonar. May be it's affected by chance of detection but aliens should forget about base location after they successfully bombed the base to give player chance for rebuild. For now I don't know how protect the base from invite loop of attacks. It's just sucking money for repair. And one more technical moment. If you start play this version on OXCE 6.4.2 or early, upgrading to 6.5 will produce segmentation fault crash if you try load old save file. May be save format was changed, I don't know.

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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.46)
« Reply #1576 on: May 18, 2020, 04:46:25 pm »
If you start play this version on OXCE 6.4.2 or early, upgrading to 6.5 will produce segmentation fault crash if you try load old save file. May be save format was changed, I don't know.

That should not happen.
Do you have a save that I can try?

Save format was not changed.

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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.46)
« Reply #1577 on: May 18, 2020, 04:59:27 pm »
Nope, sorry I overwrite it starting new game. May be I did something wrong when manually upgrade the version. I just copied new exe file on place of old. Next time I'll totally replace old folders too.

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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.46)
« Reply #1578 on: May 18, 2020, 05:16:10 pm »
I just copied new exe file on place of old. Next time I'll totally replace old folders too.

Yes, that will definitely crash.

You need to update everything.

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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.46)
« Reply #1579 on: May 18, 2020, 08:09:56 pm »
Seems that game went harder after my last play on superhuman.

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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.46)
« Reply #1580 on: May 18, 2020, 10:27:32 pm »
Sadly, but gotta downgrade version because of infinite bombing attack on same base. And I just getting message about it without any ship on sonar. May be it's affected by chance of detection but aliens should forget about base location after they successfully bombed the base to give player chance for rebuild.
.I suppose that not only last ufo in alienMission set doing bombing run, but all of them. I think it dhould not be like that, though.

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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.46)
« Reply #1581 on: May 19, 2020, 04:57:56 am »
Old version even worst. Lost game in February because got base defense against Aquatoids and Calcinites. Ten people had no chance at all. Bad RNG but this is not fun now when aliens retaliate after I just destroyed one very small USO with deep bombs. I assume what on 2.46 they will bomb everything until wipe out my base anyway. 

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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.46)
« Reply #1582 on: May 19, 2020, 12:43:10 pm »
Old version even worst. Lost game in February because got base defense against Aquatoids and Calcinites. Ten people had no chance at all. Bad RNG but this is not fun now when aliens retaliate after I just destroyed one very small USO with deep bombs. I assume what on 2.46 they will bomb everything until wipe out my base anyway.
Save file?

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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.46)
« Reply #1583 on: May 19, 2020, 05:38:22 pm »
aliens retaliate after I just destroyed one very small USO with deep bombs.

Isn't it a rule of thumb for all vanilla games that you  shouldn't attack USOs/UFOs near your bases? Retaliation is incredibly powerful and each kill gives a fair chance of it, so you simply never give the enemy the opportunity to retaliate unless you're sure you can take it. I personally don't like the mechanic because it is low clarity (new players don't know this, you don't know the retaliation range, you don't know what will assault, all for a mechanic that ends the game), but it's how vanilla works, so the mod can't be blamed.

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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.46)
« Reply #1584 on: May 19, 2020, 06:14:19 pm »
Isn't it a rule of thumb for all vanilla games that you  shouldn't attack USOs/UFOs near your bases? Retaliation is incredibly powerful and each kill gives a fair chance of it, so you simply never give the enemy the opportunity to retaliate unless you're sure you can take it. I personally don't like the mechanic because it is low clarity (new players don't know this, you don't know the retaliation range, you don't know what will assault, all for a mechanic that ends the game), but it's how vanilla works, so the mod can't be blamed.


Retaliations don't end the game if you have multiple bases I thought?

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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.46)
« Reply #1585 on: May 19, 2020, 08:09:30 pm »
They don't, but if your main base goes down you're gonna have a bad time. Any manned base loss is pretty devastating too.

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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.46)
« Reply #1586 on: May 19, 2020, 09:02:16 pm »
good point.

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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.46)
« Reply #1587 on: May 20, 2020, 08:07:22 pm »
First - love this mod - its incredible :)

Few questions:

1. Researched almost everything - got flounder - no T'leth mission - am I missing something?
3. Flounder has 50 zrbite capacity and yet can't go 10 miles further from base before reporting low fuel? This is intended?
2. How do I train "M.C gifted" aquanauts - I can train everything else (cyborg/M.C.resistant)

I am stuck :(

Thank you

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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.46)
« Reply #1588 on: May 20, 2020, 11:22:33 pm »
First - love this mod - its incredible :)

Few questions:

1. Researched almost everything - got flounder - no T'leth mission - am I missing something?
3. Flounder has 50 zrbite capacity and yet can't go 10 miles further from base before reporting low fuel? This is intended?
2. How do I train "M.C gifted" aquanauts - I can train everything else (cyborg/M.C.resistant)

I am stuck :(

Thank you
1. Lobsterman commander and bloop site.
2. not really, maybe a bug.
3. You can only order  new ones. A talent is a talent, it can not be trained.

Upd.: version 2.47 is up. Nothing new, just minor bugfixing.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2020, 10:22:34 pm by Nord »

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Re: [TFTD] [Expansion] TWoTS+ Release (v.2.47)
« Reply #1589 on: May 24, 2020, 03:54:48 pm »
For some unknown (at least for me) reason I can see through wall of Triton the enemy Ghost. Turn 1, night-vision auto mode on. Version 2.45. To be honest I've encounter a lot of glitches like this, include when enemy can spot me from 2nd floor of medium USO's and shoot through it as well. I don't know is this mod bug or just OXCE engine.