Re: [MAIN] XPiratez - N7 16-Dec-2023 Flying Tiger, Hidden Tentacle

[Cristao]

Did you restore nuclear fuel from 25 to 50?

[Dioxine]

Did you restore nuclear fuel from 25 to 50?

Of course not. Testing shows it is a far more fitting amount. Besides, it makes sense - in the OG, aliens had to have enough fuel for a round-trip to Mars. Also they didn't have to pay for it.

[Cristao]

I got the new version loaded. I have been getting a lot of Trader Cargo Freight missions.

[Meridian]

I got the new version loaded. I have been getting a lot of Trader Cargo Freight missions.

What is a lot?
Did you already manage to play several game months in just several real-world hours after release?

[AbuDhabi]

Hi! I require hints, comrades.

I'm stuck being unable to go to Cydonia - I've got the Guild, Church, Academy and Star God codes. What I lack is apparently a ship capable of getting there. The Computer Core description implies existence of further education research, but I've been unable to find what triggers that. Everything I could research, I did, right now I'm just farming Encrypted Disks for the collection of fluff and mechanics description research.

For what it's worth, I've started playing on 0.97A and upgraded to 0.97C just now. This gave me a bunch of new technologies, but I am still unable to figure out how to reach these mystical Higher Studies. Who do I need to kill or take hostage for that?

[Dioxine]

Do you have Magnetic Containment, nuclear laser ammo and Forcefields yet?

[AbuDhabi]

Those would be under Mysteries? Pretty sure I don't have them.

Attached last page of my Mysteries.

[Cristao]

What is a lot?
Did you already manage to play several game months in just several real-world hours after release?

No most of the crafts I have seen so far in two months of game play are supply. I normally go after them when landed so I guess they are cargo freight and military supply vessels crewed by the Guild.

[Meridian]

No most of the crafts I have seen so far in two months of game play are supply. I normally go after them when landed so I guess they are cargo freight and military supply vessels crewed by the Guild.

Wow you actually did play the whole day today :-) I guess just bad luck on RNG then.

[Dioxine]

Those would be under Mysteries? Pretty sure I don't have them.

Attached last page of my Mysteries.

You need UAC weapons, reticulan power systems, MPG and Kruger to get it. For Forcefields, you need Church. For nuclear laser ammo, elerium explosives, lasers and Industrial Printer (not a full list of preqs, just guidelines)

About the freights - they weren't changed at all since before 0.9, so... bad call

[Cristao]

I am not complaining. I get loads money from it and Nuclear fuel.

[AbuDhabi]

You need UAC weapons, reticulan power systems, MPG and Kruger to get it. For Forcefields, you need Church. For nuclear laser ammo, elerium explosives, lasers and Industrial Printer (not a full list of preqs, just guidelines)

Will have to catch some pokemons again, I guess.

Is the Industrial Printer required for any research? Or just a guideline? It doesn't flat out say anything about research, just manufacturing.

[AbuDhabi]

Turns out I had Forcefields, they were just listed in the middle of the list. From the prereqs you listed:
- UAC Weapons
- Reticulan Power Systems: CHECK
- MPG (is the tech actually called that?)
- Kruger: CHECK
- Forcefields: CHECK
- Nuclear Laser Ammo
- Elerium Explosives: CHECK
- Lasers (what kind of lasers? I've got Laser Weapons Construction and Laser Weapons Dissassembly)
- Industrial Printer: CHECK (at least the tech; I have it built in a non-research base)

[Cristao]

I wish I hadnt complained. The Church just got on the scene. Started a landing mission, stunned, killed a few enemies then saw chyrissies and thought - wait did anyone bring fire or spears? High Explosives? Nobody? - alrite everybody back the eff up onto the craft - we outta here.

[Dioxine]

Turns out I had Forcefields, they were just listed in the middle of the list. From the prereqs you listed:

To get Higher Studies you just need Printer tech, not the facility. You seem to be missing Laser Batteries, which are quite a basic tech. You need to

Spoiler:

farm gun almanachs (you need Hydra Laser, Laser Tommy & Hunting laser). MPG is a weapon and can be gotten from interrogating all types of nazis, but also from farming Disks. UAC weapons can be gotten from Disks or from Doom mission.

Looks like I need to add another source of these rare techs like UAC weapons (maybe advanced hacking) so you don't have to rely on rare finds so much.