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Offline kikimoristan

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just a simple suggestion.

kneel

move

unit moves and then goes back to kneeling unless no TU left to kneel again.

good or bad idea?

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Re: when kneeling and moving unit should return back to kneeling
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2015, 09:53:28 am »
Bad.
Seriously? Just because you can get tired of kneeling after move? What if you don't need that "finalization kneel" in this particular case?
That only obfuscate everything. And not worth it.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2015, 09:55:28 am by volutar »

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Re: when kneeling and moving unit should return back to kneeling
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2015, 09:57:10 am »
okay :)

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Re: when kneeling and moving unit should return back to kneeling
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2015, 09:59:29 am »
In some different game concept (as jagged aliance) it's just duck movement without unkneeling. And it's OK in them. But if it gonna be implemented in xcom (and it is possible), I'm not sure people would perceive this game as xcom anymore.

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Re: when kneeling and moving unit should return back to kneeling
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2015, 12:39:17 pm »
Are you using keyboard shortcuts? I could see it getting a bit tedious clicking kneel every time, but just hitting K isn't so bad.

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Re: when kneeling and moving unit should return back to kneeling
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2015, 12:52:11 pm »
hah i didn't know about k. that's not so bad :)

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Re: when kneeling and moving unit should return back to kneeling
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2015, 04:26:17 pm »
Kneeling is 4 TUs. Standing up is 8 TUs. For these 12 TUs, I'm likely to find a much better cover instead of just hugging the ground ineffectively. And while the accuracy bonus is nice, going 3 tiles towards the enemy will improve this too.

Sure, there are cases where kneeling is beneficial, mostly when sniping or when behind a low cover. But using it as a default manoeuvre each turn is more trouble than gain.

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Re: when kneeling and moving unit should return back to kneeling
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2015, 04:53:03 pm »
Kneeling is 4 TUs. Standing up is 8 TUs. For these 12 TUs, I'm likely to find a much better cover instead of just hugging the ground ineffectively. And while the accuracy bonus is nice, going 3 tiles towards the enemy will improve this too.

Sure, there are cases where kneeling is beneficial, mostly when sniping or when behind a low cover. But using it as a default manoeuvre each turn is more trouble than gain.

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Re: when kneeling and moving unit should return back to kneeling
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2015, 11:25:00 pm »
i kinda like staying far away from aliens and sniping so i kneel a lot and i spend more time kneeling than i do playing hahaha..but now I know about K is gonna be good : - )