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Re: [GLOBE] Desert world / DUNE total conversion 0.7
« Reply #60 on: May 19, 2015, 09:38:40 pm »
Hey why cannot we play as Harkonnen :)

I thought everybody wants to play the "good guys".  ;)
If one can consider a bunch of primitive religous fanatics in the desert fighting against a technologically advanced invasion force "good guys".

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« Reply #61 on: May 19, 2015, 10:52:06 pm »
If one can consider a bunch of primitive religous fanatics in the desert fighting against a technologically advanced invasion force "good guys".

"Polish comes from the cities; wisdom from the desert" - Arrakeen saying ;)
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« Reply #62 on: May 19, 2015, 10:54:29 pm »
Like we don't have any deserts on Giedi Prime :) That wisdom might be some news to those effeminated comfort-lovers Atreides, maybe :)

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« Reply #63 on: May 19, 2015, 10:57:19 pm »
Like we don't have any deserts on Giedi Prime :) That wisdom might be some news to those effeminated comfort-lovers Atreides, maybe :)

"We Fremen have a saying: "God created Arrakis to train the faithful." One cannot go against the word of God." - Paul Atreides ;)
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« Reply #64 on: May 19, 2015, 11:10:54 pm »
Well, the Harkonnen created Giedi Prime as it is today, with its deserts and factories and radioactive contamination, to test the faithful as well. Harkonnen are not divided between a thousand tribes, but united for one purpose - which might be also described as "more faithful". Well. Harkonnen 1, God 0 :)

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« Reply #65 on: May 20, 2015, 01:33:31 am »
Harkonnen are not divided between a thousand tribes, but united for one purpose - which might be also described as "more faithful". Well. Harkonnen 1, God 0 :)

"Power bases are very dangerous because they attract people who are truly insane, people who seek power only for the sake of power." - Leto Atreides

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Re: [GLOBE] Desert world / DUNE total conversion 0.7
« Reply #66 on: May 20, 2015, 02:36:54 am »
Well, the Harkonnen created Giedi Prime as it is today, with its deserts and factories and radioactive contamination, to test the faithful as well. Harkonnen are not divided between a thousand tribes, but united for one purpose - which might be also described as "more faithful". Well. Harkonnen 1, God 0 :)

Harkonnen<
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I want to see that with "Insert Baron here" out of the picture untill a new one is installed.

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« Reply #67 on: May 20, 2015, 07:16:55 am »
Well, Baron Vladimir had a longer rule than ol' Prince Leto, didn't he? :) Sometimes a rotten head needs decapitation, though, to make way for a fresh, strong leader. Harkonnen are united as a house, struggles for leadership amongst the elite are constant but there is never more than a single leader at a time, so the people always know whom they're supposed to be faithful to.

As for ol' Prince Leto, truly he didn't seek power for the sake of power - not his own, at least. For the sake of "Bene" Gesserit, naturally :) And even those insinuations aside, only a man blinded with greed or otherwise mentally weak would trade Arrakis for his homeworld, especially while being unpopular amongst the Landsraad. Yeah he got Emperor Padishah's order. Corrina's orders are only as good as his backing in the Landsraad. What would he do, invade Caladan if Leto defied him? He'd have to use his own Sardaukars since I highly doubt any house would choose to take part in such an ill-fated adventure. Not much to gain. Corrina fails, all the better - maybe his dynasty has been around too long... Corrina wins, he gains nothing except for a burnt-out and ruined world - so he fails as well. Defying Emperor's orders wasn't a death warrant - only using nuclear weapons in an act of aggression, building Abominable Intelligences and few other similar things were.

But then again, Gesserit, too, seemed to have pushed Prince Leto to take Arrakis... and he, quite understandably, didn't want to go against the wishes of his good friends...

Alas, the Guild had shown its true colors in the end (they didn't take lightly Landsraad's feeble attempts to undermine their monopoly, it seems...), and thus Paul was able to destroy everything and introduce a thousand years of Gesserit-style, body-over-mind, emotion-over-reason universe of technological regression and religious fanaticism.

(and please keep Holy Promethium in the promethium tanks - I'm debating this for fun, not to start a holy war :)

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Re: [GLOBE] Desert world / DUNE total conversion 0.7
« Reply #68 on: May 20, 2015, 03:01:21 pm »
Well, Baron Vladimir had a longer rule than ol' Prince Leto, didn't he? :) Sometimes a rotten head needs decapitation, though, to make way for a fresh, strong leader. Harkonnen are united as a house, struggles for leadership amongst the elite are constant but there is never more than a single leader at a time, so the people always know whom they're supposed to be faithful to.

If you're considering length of rule, then God Emperor Leto II beat all of them :)

But going back to the first book, Leto could have refused the emperor's command/order as you said, although he would lose a lot of influence (he tells Paul that he is considered an unofficial spokesman for several Landsraad houses) but that Shaddam would simply find another hidden way to strike at him ("the first step in avoiding a trap is knowing where it is").

Although Shaddam didn't knew that the Bene Gesserit had a plan to generate the Kwisatz Haderach to supplant him as the leader of mankind, but Paul wasn't what they had planned, since his mother was supposed to have given birth to a girl, that would marry Feyd Rautha Harkonnen and end the feud between both houses and then give birth to the Kwisatz Haderach. And House Harkonnen was major part of this whole scheme since Jessica's father was the Baron Harkonnen.


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« Reply #69 on: May 20, 2015, 04:47:30 pm »

(and please keep Holy Promethium in the promethium tanks - I'm debating this for fun, not to start a holy war :)

Why who did?

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Re: [GLOBE] Desert world / DUNE total conversion 0.7
« Reply #70 on: May 21, 2015, 06:16:20 pm »
Small tip for the artists: don't take artwork and concepts from the Lynch film as a sort of inspiration. It is generally poorly done and not book accurate at all (and pretty much illogical in most aspects). For reference:

- Harkonnen troops generally dressed in blue
- Fremen should look more like Star Wars sand people or bedouins, than guys in X-COM personal armor (the latter unfortunately how they look like in the movie)
- Atreides colours are actually red and green and black (the video games popularised blue)

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Re: [GLOBE] Desert world / DUNE total conversion 0.8
« Reply #71 on: August 16, 2015, 09:32:59 pm »
Uploaded version 0.8 to the first post.


Ver 0.8
- small deployment fixes
- added Harkonnen Leader
- added Bandages (from Piratez mod)
- modified research and manufacture economy a bit

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Re: [GLOBE] Desert world / DUNE total conversion 0.8
« Reply #72 on: August 17, 2015, 12:11:08 pm »
Thank you!!

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Re: [GLOBE] Desert world / DUNE total conversion 0.8
« Reply #73 on: August 18, 2015, 01:13:29 am »
ahah pretty cool

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Re: [GLOBE] Desert world / DUNE total conversion 0.8
« Reply #74 on: August 29, 2015, 07:10:18 pm »
Some screesshots! The new fighter craft is still diplayed as interceptor though

I'd humbly add that some inspiration may be taken from here and here. Also the laser sniper rifle from Ascsdix (in french) may fit well along chiko's laser weapon mod  8)