How come Reptoids are completely immune to gas grenades ?

[karry299]

The ones in the business suits even. Their choke is 80%, bio is 100%, stun is 100%, chemical is 140%...nothing is mentioned in the research...what does it compare the gas damage to ?? I loaded up on gas grenades for the base, and they just ignore it.

[Juku121]

Gas grenades do basically fire damage: 5-10, goes completely through armour. Reptoid agents can take quite a few of those, since they have 45 health and no special choke weakness, unlike most other enemies.

[karry299]

What the...how does that make sense ? So...not only are there several types of choke, several types of stun, but now choke is actually incendiary ? Okay, incendiary of reptoids is 50%, that's 25 damage from a single gas grenade...right ? I just cant anymore, guess i'll debug-kill the reptoids and be done with it.

[Juku121]

No, gas grenades are not incendiary, they just use the same damage model. Damage type and damage calculations can vary between weapons. The most typical example is napalm vs incendiary, where one actually works off its power rating and the other only uses it to calculate the damage radius. Gas grenades are the choke/smoke version of that.

There's only one type of choke, but it can be applied in different ways.

Reptoids take 80% damage from choke, regular enemies take somewhere around 400%. So essentially they have 20% choke resistance, there's just no good way to communicate this hack to the player.

5-10 * 80% is 3-8 damage, so they can eat at least 5 gas grenades and more likely 7-8. But you can just shoot them as normal if they're wearing suits.

[DarthTheIII]

Yeah, reptoids take 5x less choke damage than standard humans.  Them taking 5-6 gas grenades to drop makes sense.