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Re: XPiratez Information Compilation, Starter Guide & Weapon Spreadsheet
« Reply #60 on: September 30, 2024, 02:05:56 pm »
recycling (pirating?) graphics from other games because they fit is perfectly in keeping with the x-piratez spirit

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« Reply #61 on: September 30, 2024, 03:53:52 pm »
It looks nice. Good work  :)

But the Catgirl Tourists and the Cultural Exchange are not Cat-path exclusive. They are the cheap ways for the other paths to get some catgirls. I would not advice to use it on the cat-path. Cultural Exchange is best used on the Gal-path.

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« Reply #62 on: September 30, 2024, 06:34:08 pm »
Might be useful for the guide, but... using the Zeerust Carbine Grenade Launcher can train Throwing on a gal. Maybe it's common knowledge, but I just realized it

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« Reply #63 on: September 30, 2024, 08:49:36 pm »
recycling (pirating?) graphics from other games because they fit is perfectly in keeping with the x-piratez spirit
The modding spirit in general; can confirm, am modder. :D Though I do love AoW4 as well and it has lots of pretty book pictures that are fairly easily available.

It looks nice. Good work  :)
Thankyou. :)

But the Catgirl Tourists and the Cultural Exchange are not Cat-path exclusive. They are the cheap ways for the other paths to get some catgirls. I would not advice to use it on the cat-path. Cultural Exchange is best used on the Gal-path.
Yes, you're right. It's just you get the Nekomimi tech prequisite wildly earlier on the route (and not need to gamble on interrogations or discs). Maybe I'll reword that a bit, but it's fairly minor.

Might be useful for the guide, but... using the Zeerust Carbine Grenade Launcher can train Throwing on a gal. Maybe it's common knowledge, but I just realized it
Interesting factoid I guess. I assume the Alpha Rifle does the same then. I wouldn't really count on it as a dedicated throwing trainer tool though, reloading an underslung grenade is a reasonably high TU cost. Javelins or Shuriken (or spears) almost certainly take that cake.

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Re: XPiratez Information Compilation, Starter Guide & Weapon Spreadsheet
« Reply #64 on: October 01, 2024, 09:34:37 pm »
Weapon Spreadsheet updated with the shotgun changes and a few extra guns.

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« Reply #65 on: October 03, 2024, 10:34:29 am »
Weapon Spreadsheet updated with the shotgun changes and a few extra guns.

Don't want to be an ass, but... I can't tell the weapon tiers. Colorblind as fuck, sorry! Excellent work, tho. I do enjoy reading the guide. Everyday I learn something new, or recheck something.

Edit: Maybe an extra column with the Tier?

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« Reply #66 on: October 03, 2024, 11:40:51 am »
Don't want to be an ass, but... I can't tell the weapon tiers. Colorblind as fuck, sorry! Excellent work, tho. I do enjoy reading the guide. Everyday I learn something new, or recheck something.

Edit: Maybe an extra column with the Tier?
That's fair enough. My one old gaming buddy sees both red and green as blackish so always said to me for most circumstances it's fine as long as red and green are not "adjacent" tiers, but I guess that is only the one type of colour-blindness.

I have used filled in box conditional formatting symbols before to help one other chap (i.e little box with four segments) but for some reason, those always get removed on Google Sheets which is notoriously bad for conditional formatting compared to Excel (I make these on Excel and then upload them to the drive).

Glad you're enjoying it, that's the main thing! :) The tier's are all kind of subjective in any case and you can usually come to the conclusions yourself with the descriptions.

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« Reply #67 on: October 07, 2024, 12:17:38 am »
You really should exchange Domestic Shotgun from Red to Green and Ol' Shotgun from green to red.

The reason being that domestic, as bad as it is, is much better than ol' shotgun for obvious reasons, not least of it being allowing three snaps per turn. This makes it decent for lokks in caves when you might not have military shotguns, or even for rats in caves. Or spiders.

It is really not that bad. Whereas ol' Shotgun is reallly really bad.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2024, 12:21:04 am by Iazo »

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« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2024, 07:37:44 pm »
This is kind of why I put that big pink disclaimer up top for this version. Take ratings with a big pinch of salt.

However, it's a valid point, so I knocked Ol Shot to C and put an extra note on Domestic. When I saw my first Domestic, I already had 2 Coaches, which are wildly superior, except for the utility niche of rubber shells.

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« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2024, 09:04:26 pm »
There should be a mention regarding countries spanning more than one region. Ex. Turan is half in Central Asia (ew), half in South-East Asia. Ghostgates has a small eastern portion in South-East Asia (useful for tax evasion hehe), and Thebes has a tiny coastal sliver in Europe.
Regarding Siberia, there's a 25% event for a one-time Ice Lady in the first four months (once you get one, the script stops), in addition to the recurring 7% one.
And the -$500k event in Turan only occurs in February. From then onward, it's just the -$100k one (though it does have a high trigger chance).
Oh, and you're using a Grey codex image for Lazy-ass, which is Green-aligned.

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« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2024, 11:09:41 pm »
Well, the guide is getting more and more fleshed out. I can see, that you have written down quite a bit of my advices, which is nice. Thank you for that.

With that said I don't like the tier lists, because it will be very different depending on playstyle and difficulty. But it is ok to keep it. It is your guide with your advices.

On another note I am missing the Shark Jetbike on your guide. You can get it very fast (if you have the money) and it will be one of your fastest vessels.

Keep up with your good work.

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« Reply #71 on: October 10, 2024, 09:52:30 am »
There should be a mention regarding countries spanning more than one region. Ex. Turan is half in Central Asia (ew), half in South-East Asia. Ghostgates has a small eastern portion in South-East Asia (useful for tax evasion hehe), and Thebes has a tiny coastal sliver in Europe.
Regarding Siberia, there's a 25% event for a one-time Ice Lady in the first four months (once you get one, the script stops), in addition to the recurring 7% one.
And the -$500k event in Turan only occurs in February. From then onward, it's just the -$100k one (though it does have a high trigger chance).
Oh, and you're using a Grey codex image for Lazy-ass, which is Green-aligned.
It's a lot of extra explaining and paragraphs for a relatively minor stuff. One of those fun things about making guides is know what minor stuff you can happily snip out; and here, I have zero lines to use before it gets knocked on to a third page for the starting locations, so some compromises were made.

Yes, I already explained that for images. I can't use most of the actual green ones since they have the habit of being naked or topless and we want as SFW as possible.

Well, the guide is getting more and more fleshed out. I can see, that you have written down quite a bit of my advices, which is nice. Thank you for that.

With that said I don't like the tier lists, because it will be very different depending on playstyle and difficulty. But it is ok to keep it. It is your guide with your advices.

On another note I am missing the Shark Jetbike on your guide. You can get it very fast (if you have the money) and it will be one of your fastest vessels.

Keep up with your good work.
Yep, Tier lists are very love it/hate it for everyone and that is always the case. Some people do like having them, though, so I always keep them even if they are subjective. I'm always happy to adjust tiers with reasonable arguments though.

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Re: XPiratez Information Compilation, Starter Guide & Weapon Spreadsheet
« Reply #72 on: October 10, 2024, 03:32:31 pm »
Would be good to add specific rank up requirements.

And looked at the gun excel and oh boy. The issue with making a tier list is that having a stated hierarchy make it very easily disagreable. Submachine gun at lowest tier is definetly one take to have, but a quick math analysis show on shorter ranges it soundly beat other low tier smgs, and that's without talking about size and weigth plus one handed usage. Domestic shotgun also is arguably more usable than birdshot against enemies  with some armour till mini shotgun research. If you want to have a systematic approach, I would recomend using the gun comparison tool to get a better understanding of relative weapon balance beyond gut feeling.

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« Reply #73 on: October 10, 2024, 04:47:17 pm »
The most important stat for shotguns is damage. A shotgun is basically a save-or-die armor check; the target gets hit by 1d6 20-damage pellets and if it can't ignore 20 damage then it's going to die. Smaller damage (ex. birdshot) means less targets are vulnerable, bigger damage means more things are valid targets. The blunderbus, heavy shotgun and CAWS are all good against Uber Gal-tier enemies while the lighter shotguns are mostly good against normal humans.

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« Reply #74 on: October 10, 2024, 05:38:51 pm »
I'm not going to continue any debates about the worth of a tier-list. It's an already too long and rather unproductive discussion. If you hate it, please just ignore it. It will always be subjective. :-\

I'll consider adding the rank-ups and other tech milestones (captain's log etc.) though.