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[SOLVED][Suggestion] Dead pilots in the Memorial?
« on: July 12, 2022, 07:24:34 pm »
Hello,
In some (all?) packs, you have to add one or more pilots to the planes. OK!
But when this plane is shot down and the pilot doesn't come back to the base, the name of this pilot doesn't go in the "Memorial of the missing"!
Is it possible to change this fact?
Thanks !
« Last Edit: July 15, 2022, 12:02:42 pm by Meridian »

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Re: [Suggestion] Dead pilots in the Memorial?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2022, 08:39:14 pm »
Sure.
Should they be KIA or MIA?
Should their corpse count as recovered or not recovered?

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Re: [Suggestion] Dead pilots in the Memorial?
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2022, 09:31:19 pm »
I am not asking for anything complicated...
We don't ask these questions of the soldiers.
KIA with the appropriate medal (if you have the Medal Mod)!

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Re: [Suggestion] Dead pilots in the Memorial?
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2022, 09:38:53 pm »
We do ask these questions for every soldier lost at the battlefield... that's why I'm asking.

Other features depend on it, the attributes are mandatory and I need to set them somehow... for example corpse recovery impacts transformation/resurrection options.

I can just choose something myself (at random), but I thought I'd ask...

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Re: [Suggestion] Dead pilots in the Memorial?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2022, 09:55:29 pm »
Other features depend on it, the attributes are mandatory and I need to set them somehow... for example corpse recovery impacts transformation/resurrection options.
:-[
Ah sorry !
In none of the packages I use are there such possibilities...

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Re: [Suggestion] Dead pilots in the Memorial?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2022, 09:42:31 pm »
I can already see the dead pilots in the Memorial as MIA.

Do you have a save where it doesn't work?

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Re: [Suggestion] Dead pilots in the Memorial?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2022, 10:14:32 pm »
 :o   ???
OXCE 7.5.3 + UNEXCOM 0.10.1 !
On a first save I did not have a pilot in the memorial.
I just went back and forced a "slaughter".
And now I can see the pilot in the memorial!
I'm really sorry for making you search!

Declared "missing" I suppose this is the reason for not awarding the medal posthumously (Fallen medals). That's OK!
And again, my apologies!  :-[

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Re: [Suggestion] Dead pilots in the Memorial?
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2022, 02:13:13 pm »
Sure.
Should they be KIA or MIA?
Should their corpse count as recovered or not recovered?
When in doubt, make it a mod option. It could be based on luck (pilots dying after ejecting versus being blown up with the plane) or damage (what if the pilot somehow is the vehicle - if that's not possible now it might be in future -? Mods with magic could have wizards using flying magic to ferry around soldiers or fight UFOs or whatever, or it could be a robot soldier that doubles as an interception fighter - you'd want KIA versus MIA to maybe tell the player if the corpse was recovered, and it could be based on overkill damage) - or even something as simple as land = KIA, water = MIA.

Of course, implementing that on the codebase level is more work.


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Re: [Suggestion] Dead pilots in the Memorial?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2022, 03:11:16 pm »
Well, KIA is better than MIA, since some mods let you revive killed soldiers... Lost soldiers, less often ;)

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Re: [Suggestion] Dead pilots in the Memorial?
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2022, 03:13:45 pm »
When in doubt, make it a mod option.

No.

When in doubt, ask a question!

I am not wasting my time on something nobody may ever use (...and needs maintenance, documentation and potentially just creates confusion).


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Re: [Suggestion] Dead pilots in the Memorial?
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2022, 03:17:28 pm »
No.

When in doubt, ask a question!

I am not wasting my time on something nobody may ever use (...and needs maintenance, documentation and potentially just creates confusion).
"Doubt" in this context means the modders disagree.
But yeah, it did come off as a bit presumptuous. Sorry about that.

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Re: [Suggestion] Dead pilots in the Memorial?
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2022, 09:48:22 pm »
I realised my mistake!
It's related to my two questions on another topic!
Dead pilots and the memorial and the recovery of a pilot after a "shoot down".
Rechecking my game, I find myself with one too many pilots!
After the cull I had bought a new plane and a new pilot.
But I didn't notice that the downed pilot had returned to the base...
Sorry !