Author Topic: use "listorder" for items on equip screen floor... and add a left arrow  (Read 5471 times)

Offline moriarty

  • Commander
  • *****
  • Posts: 1421
    • View Profile
    • Luke's OX mod site
granted, it's not an issue for vanilla games, and certainly not during battles, but when you play something like PirateZ and try to equip your soldiers in the basescape (or before a base defense mission, for that matter), there's just so many different kinds of weapons and ammunition... and the game tries to sort all small items into the gaps left by larger items, so hunting for the right kind of ammo for the weapon you just equipped can be quite a challenge.

two things could make this easier:
1) sort the items on the "floor" by their listorder. nevermind the gaps. we have that nifty arrow that the original original game didn't have, so we don't have to fit everything into one screen width.

2) add a "left" arrow! sure it's nice to be able to scroll, but it would be even nicer to be able to scroll both ways  ;)

Offline Solarius Scorch

  • Global Moderator
  • Commander
  • *****
  • Posts: 11730
  • WE MUST DISSENT
    • View Profile
    • Nocturmal Productions modding studio website
Re: use "listorder" for items on equip screen floor... and add a left arrow
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2015, 01:46:34 am »
Left arrow would be so awesome, it would drill through my screen and pierce the heavens!

Offline Dioxine

  • Commander
  • *****
  • Posts: 5458
  • punk not dead
    • View Profile
    • Nocturnal Productions
Re: use "listorder" for items on equip screen floor... and add a left arrow
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2015, 07:19:44 pm »
2) add a "left" arrow! sure it's nice to be able to scroll, but it would be even nicer to be able to scroll both ways  ;)

Seconded, it would make life so much easier... Hoper there's space for that left arrow on the interface, though :)

Offline moriarty

  • Commander
  • *****
  • Posts: 1421
    • View Profile
    • Luke's OX mod site
Re: use "listorder" for items on equip screen floor... and add a left arrow
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2015, 09:31:04 pm »
Seconded, it would make life so much easier... Hoper there's space for that left arrow on the interface, though :)

I think there should be some space directly to the left of the existing arrow button. keyboard shortcuts would also be nice... since we already have keys assigned for "scroll left" and "scroll right", this shouldn't be a problem, though.

@warboy (or anyone else with enough insight, anyway): what about ordering items by listorder value? is that even possible? how are the items arranged right now?

Offline moriarty

  • Commander
  • *****
  • Posts: 1421
    • View Profile
    • Luke's OX mod site
Re: use "listorder" for items on equip screen floor... and add a left arrow
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2015, 07:48:26 pm »
added these as suggestions on the bugtracker... :


#1100 - sort items on the equip screen "floor" by listOrder   
#1101 - add a "left" button for scrolling the "floor" in the equip screen, and adding keyboard functionality

Offline mrxian

  • Colonel
  • ****
  • Posts: 109
    • View Profile
Re: use "listorder" for items on equip screen floor... and add a left arrow
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2015, 08:59:57 pm »
Maybe it's an idea for the modmakers to actually reduce the item clutter somewhat.

Sure, it's an awesome thing to have a variety of handguns to choose from, but do they really have a gameplay difference is what matters. You don't need a dozen guns that all perform essentially the same purpose.

Offline moriarty

  • Commander
  • *****
  • Posts: 1421
    • View Profile
    • Luke's OX mod site
Re: use "listorder" for items on equip screen floor... and add a left arrow
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2015, 09:20:43 pm »
Maybe it's an idea for the modmakers to actually reduce the item clutter somewhat.

modmakers [...] reduce

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


no, seriously, that may sound reasonable, but modders gonna mod... :P

Offline Dioxine

  • Commander
  • *****
  • Posts: 5458
  • punk not dead
    • View Profile
    • Nocturnal Productions
Re: use "listorder" for items on equip screen floor... and add a left arrow
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2015, 10:00:18 pm »
Maybe it's an idea for the modmakers to actually reduce the item clutter somewhat.

Sure, it's an awesome thing to have a variety of handguns to choose from, but do they really have a gameplay difference is what matters. You don't need a dozen guns that all perform essentially the same purpose.

Examples? If you dislike any particular mod and think it has useless equipment, please join the discussion on its thread - vague truisms aren't really constructive :3

Offline mrxian

  • Colonel
  • ****
  • Posts: 109
    • View Profile
Re: use "listorder" for items on equip screen floor... and add a left arrow
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2015, 03:25:47 pm »
Examples? If you dislike any particular mod and think it has useless equipment, please join the discussion on its thread - vague truisms aren't really constructive :3
Sorry, but I can't recall any specific mods right now, I haven't played in a while and my memory is a little foggy. I do remember reading through the modlist, and seeing an uzi and other light SMGs and three different assault rifles and a light machine gun and reading their stats, and though they were all a little different, they all had the same basic function as the standard rifle. They were also all made obsolete early on in the game - even the laser pistol was better.

Of course, this isn't all on the mod makers - it's just as much on the player for keeping so much clutter around.