Fortification

[Camalex97]

Maybe we could have something like fortifying your bunker with things like maybe having some sandbags (maybe a re-colored/re-textured version of the stone wall from some of the farm levels) in things like the elevator like 1 on each side of each entrance and maybe something similar in the hangar.  and maybe having something like a sentry gun you could buy and carry with soldiers (if it looks like the ones from half life which it style would probably compliment this it could be a folding one that takes up a 1wide 3 tall amount of space) that can be dropped and have a tool with med-kit like code to place/build and repair it.  and maybe it uses auto-cannon ammo and can have a good amount of accuracy for choke-points?  maybe even upgrading it to laser and plasma?  and also having a checkpoint room would be cool too, like something that has a good amount of tactical value to make sure nothing gets in/out thats not supposed too and maybe even a vantage point into hangars and stuff? also if there were things like portable cover (i don't like giving this series credit but i must admit the riot shield in bo2 did have a decent amount of tactical value as cover)  and maybe having laser trip mines in combination with regular ones like setting up a transmitter and reciever? (i know that one is far fetched but would be cool) just a few ideas if anyone wants them!

[kharille]

Yeah, maybe some defend the house missions where you can have some control over deploying cover...

[moriarty]

I like the sandbag idea, it would actually make a lot of sense to have at least some improvised fortifications in place when the base gets attacked... perhaps even randomly placed, so that the base defense missions have a random element?

as for sentry guns, this is actually possible, in a way. since items can spawn units (afaik), all you needed to create would be a unit which is incapable of movement and looks like a gun on a tripod (or something like that). you would be able to control it once it's placed, and the aliens would attack it as if it were one of your soldiers somebody should start creating a mod for this... I don't know how to achieve the part about "incapable of moving, but still able to turn to shoot", but we'll figure something out.

[Camalex97]

for the part concerning not moving maybe give them only 3 tu and each shot costs 1 tu? (33%) also they should be full auto only and maybe set to 5 shots a burst? just a thought

Yeah, maybe some defend the house missions where you can have some control over deploying cover...

and a home alone like thing in x-com would be hilarious just saying, if not a bit overkill...

[kharille]

How about a mission where you're trying to save civilians in a house?  A variation on a terror mission but in a total residential area?

Just thinking back to the first laser squad mission...  assassinate sterner regnix....

[Camalex97]

How about a mission where you're trying to save civilians in a house?  A variation on a terror mission but in a total residential area?

Just thinking back to the first laser squad mission...  assassinate sterner regnix....

do you mean like a VIP or just a bunch of houses, because it would also be nice to see what a sentry gun/turret (if ever even made into a mod) would do, especially if the civilian was on the top floor of that one house with like 3/4 floors and all the rooms, and how it would be so fun to setup a defense in there before an alien grenade kills everyone (in my opinion)

[kharille]

Maybe one big house like the original laser squad scenario, and the soldiers have to clear rooms..  yeah, a mansion....  Squad level, urban fighting like in Schtalingrad where the ruskies held the werhmacht at a stalemate...

[Svanh]

I like the sandbag idea, it would actually make a lot of sense to have at least some improvised fortifications in place when the base gets attacked... perhaps even randomly placed, so that the base defense missions have a random element?

as for sentry guns, this is actually possible, in a way. since items can spawn units (afaik), all you needed to create would be a unit which is incapable of movement and looks like a gun on a tripod (or something like that). you would be able to control it once it's placed, and the aliens would attack it as if it were one of your soldiers somebody should start creating a mod for this... I don't know how to achieve the part about "incapable of moving, but still able to turn to shoot", but we'll figure something out.

For "immobile but can shoot", maybe 1 energy/stamina? Not sure whether turning uses energy.

[moriarty]

For "immobile but can shoot", maybe 1 energy/stamina? Not sure whether turning uses energy.

that's actually pretty brilliant why didn't I think of that?

[Camalex97]

btw would a shield made out of alien alloys be possible? maybe like portable cover and non-degrading?  that would also be pretty cool, having like a sidearm in one hand shooting through a slot on the left/right side depending on which hand its put in? i think that would be something they should consider using... come to think of it do you guys think x-com has forgotten about 1/4 of the technology in the world of 1999 that would be infinetly useful to them...

[kharille]

Hm...  should work, though I wonder to what extent the kinetic energy might hurt the user.  No worse than getting hit with a flight suit on I suppose.  Might be heavy though, same weight as carrying a muton maybe.

[Camalex97]

Hm...  should work, though I wonder to what extent the kinetic energy might hurt the user.  No worse than getting hit with a flight suit on I suppose.  Might be heavy though, same weight as carrying a muton maybe.

maybe it would work as an armor and just make the front armor max or something leaving the sides exposed? just a thought