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XPiratez / Re: [TOTAL CONVERSION] Piratez Extended - 0.92 - 25 Jun
« on: July 01, 2015, 08:31:08 pm »
Yes, as my first playthrough has been heavy Govt/Academy. And I don't mind smoke screen bombs; used to the long drawn out fighting from I/I XCOM. Also, I went very slow in breaches; open door, throw smoke, wait turn or two and then open door to see if I can bumrush any stragglers.

I haven't experienced any big ships yet, but by then, I doubt I'd need a Tac Vest. Back to my previous argument, cost is very high ($ can be spent better elsewhere, tbh. and parts can be scarce or best used for other armors.). I haven't had any issues with Warrior/Basic Armor, frankly. I use them as my frontline tanks (military shotguns) with melee pirates behind to bandage/nade/melee targets. I don't mind if they are slow; I'm not trying to rush through skirmishes and lose Gals. I go for the slow n steady and prioritize capturing targets to interrogate/sell (still learning tech tree and interrogations hasn't seemed too useful yet, except Academy).

I haven't unlocked/discovered Leather yet so can't offer much there. But Smokey Ops works amazing for my tactics, however that doesn't mean everyone wants to play that way.

Sidenote: Fistycuffs doesn't scale as well as I had thought, but I don't know what the cap on stats is in Piratez.

Suggestions / Re: Rehash: Play as Aliens
« on: July 01, 2015, 04:48:50 am »,2219.msg22073.html

What about this post?

That thread inspired this one. That's how I found and quoted Align's posts and ideas.

Was there something specific you wanted me to respond to or address? Some of your questions I addressed in my initial post, as had Align. Biggest inspiration for this mod would be from Dioxine's total conversion Piratez mod.

XPiratez / Re: [TOTAL CONVERSION] Piratez Extended - 0.92 - 25 Jun
« on: July 01, 2015, 03:23:01 am »
Fistycuffs - If throwing fistycuffs at enemies did some type of damage, I could see that being abused. But since it doesnt, does the weight matter? The reason I put 'em on my Runties is for couple reasons: knocking out units that "wake" up behind my main line, when I need to swarm a target with stuns, and lastly it's a great way to train skills on armored units then kill them if they don't go down. (Kind of like in Ironman Impossible nuXCOM where you let rookies take low shots first, but ensure you have explosives or veterans able to put the target down if it survives or trainees miss.)

Player could repeatedly throw objects to train throwing accuracy, especially as there are items in Piratez that utilizes throwing accuracy skills. In X-COM, throwing accuracy did not affect secondary stat growth, but not sure if that was changed in openXCOM, or if it was changed in Piratez. Totally forgot to test that out.

Tac Vest - I haven't bothered using it honestly, I couldn't justify the $$$ for it and unlocked the manufacture waaaay after Smokey Ops Gear & Warrior Armor. I doubt I'll use it even if Laser Res was set to 80%; as again, takes too long to research, costs a hefty price Black Market or rare Personal Armor parts (rare in my playthrough anyway), and Smokey Ops feels like a better upgrade as it spreads armor around, eliminates smoke vulnerability (nothing like throwing out smoke nades and Gals swarming out of the smoke into the blind enemy), only affects stamina, cutting/acid res, and NV 9 (not sure if this truly works on this armor as "Our Abilities" entry states Gals have inherent NV 12?).

To see myself using it, perhaps having it as a downgrade of Guerrilla armor; +accuracies, another Resistance; to make it a viable early-game alternative to smokey ops.

Sidenote: Do personal flashlights (from Our Abilities Bootypedia, default hotkey: L) actually affect the AI in any way? I've replayed the same missions with lights ON or OFF the entire time, on Day and Night missions, and haven't noticed any difference. (E.g., Mission 1a: Day, Lights On. Mission 1b: Day, Lights Off. Mission 2a: Night, Lights On. Mission 2b: Night, Lights Off.)

XPiratez / Re: [TOTAL CONVERSION] Piratez Extended - 0.92 - 25 Jun
« on: June 30, 2015, 11:27:37 pm »
Some initial feedback:

  • Gameplay Balance
    • Items
      • Fistycuffs - Weight - 3 weight seems awfully heavy; was hoping to let my low-Str Runty gals carry but grenades/bandages often take priority. Suggestion: Lower to 2 or 1 weight?
      • Tac Vest - Resistance - 90% vulnerability to laser (10% increase from Unarmored/Pirate/Runt) doesn't make a lot of sense in consideration of high cost (Purchase/Manufacture), minimal armor increase, and statistic reduction. Suggestion: Revert to 80%?

    • Missions
      • Pogroms - Difficulty - More difficult with Sneaky AI on (AI appears to prioritize killing civilians as they try to "hide" from player units). Less difficult with Sneaky AI off (AI appears to prioritize "confronting" player units, instead of attacking civilians). Suggestion: None really, just reporting my experiences. I kind of like turning Sneaky AI on for pogroms, and off for regular missions.

  • Sound
    • Melee - Volume - Melee "hit" sound is very low, almost always drowned out by the default melee "[attack/miss]" sound. Suggestion: Increase melee "hit" sound, as the actual melee "[attack/miss]" (aka the WHIFF noise) sound is at a good volume.

  • Spelling
    • Basic Armor - Multiple - Some screens appears as "Basic Armor", others as "Warrior". Intentional? See Warrior Armor.
    • Guerrila - Multiple - Correct form should be "guerilla" or "guerrilla", unless intentional?
      • Bootypedia entry - "X-Section: 2." comment is not uniform with all other armor entries of flavor text then effect text. (E.g., Runt -> "... X-Section: 2. Energy Recovery Penalty." / Pirate -> "... X-Section: 2. Melee Dodge %: REACTIONS*0.5.")

    • Handcannon Bullets - Multiple - Manufacture screen says "Handcannon Rounds" but produces "Handcannon Bullets" in inventory screens, other ammunition production does not seem to have this disjunction. Intentional? See Handcannon Rounds.
    • Handcannon Rounds - Multiple - Manufacture screen says "Handcannon Rounds" but produces "Handcannon Bullets" in inventory screens, other ammunition production does not seem to have this disjunction. Intentional? See Handcannon Bullets.
    • Molotov Cocktail - Bootypedia entry - "... don't forget to lit it up before throwing ...", lit should be light.
    • Spike Rockets - Bootypedia entry - "Crude rockets based on built from junk parts and home-made explosives, ...", first sentence should be rewritten. Suggestion: "Crude rockets [cobbled together/recklessly built] from junk parts and home-made explosives, ..."
    • Warrior Armor - Multiple - Some screens appears as "Warrior", others as "Basic Armor". Intentional? See Basic Armor.

  • Miscellaneous
    • Guerrila - Bootypedia entry - appears in Bootypedia at start of game without research, unless intentional?
    • Oldworld City Names - Singapore, Jerusalem. Intentional?
Edit: As an aside, in my first playthrough I have been repeatedly stuck with Govt "ships" and little raider/Academy/Trader/whathaveyou activity. The AI gets "points" for these Govt missions, but if I respond I lose (nearly lose-lose situation, but loot/hostages mitigates some). Feeling a bit of Catch-22... so attacking the government does not increase "terror" points, but decreases them; which I am assuming is because the assorted powers-that-be (Star Gods and all) begin "cracking" down on crime/piracy with increased patrols/military/etc, making the countries/cities feel "safe" instead of terrorized by scantily-clad Gals. Is this rationale correct? Also, what do the points from Govt ships/missions produce in the long run? Or is it safe to assume all "alien" points (Academy/Trader/Raider/etc) are counted against the Gals, and getting consistent Govt spawns is just a "That's XPiratez, baby!" ?

XPiratez / Re: [TOTAL CONVERSION] Piratez Extended - 0.92 - 25 Jun
« on: June 28, 2015, 09:33:19 pm »
What type of feedback are you looking for from playtesters, if any?

Suggestions / Rehash: Play as Aliens
« on: June 21, 2015, 08:14:30 pm »
Thought I'd post some rough ideas for a potential TC mod (akin X-Piratez):

Supplementary ideas from Align:
(I was shocked of the similarities, having never read these posts prior or spoken to him)
I guess I'd just flip the viewpoint initially and elaborate & alter things from there;

-You send missions via the Geoscape (modified to look suitable for the alien perspective). Each mission requires a set of ships, determined by mission type, but you can exceed the requirements if you want something heavier than a small scout for your Research missions.
--Ships require various materials to build, personnel to man.
---Materials are produced in factories on Mars which require materials to build, personnel to man.
---You start with a modest reserve of these.
---Personnel require organic matter to clone more - optionally using genetic data for better results.
----Get organic matter from Harvest, Abduction missions.
----Get genetic data from Research, Harvest, Abduction missions.
----Get both in regular shipments from Alien Bases.

-After a successful mission, ships return to Mars after a week or so, ready to reuse. So you want to avoid getting shot down.
--XCOM launches interceptions from their bases, but you can't see them until you're in a dogfight.
---Ships that are shot down inevitably face an assault by XCOM - and they may also assault a ship while it's landed for a mission.
----If the XCOM assault isn't fought off, you lose all you invested in that ship.
----If it is fought off, you can just proceed with the mission, or if the ship was shot down, it'll be (automatically) recovered after a time, returning some materials and any surviving personnel.
--XCOM bases are similarly invisible unless you find their placement via Research, Infiltration, Retaliation missions.

-Unsuccessful missions (or just being inactive) will make the funding nations think XCOM is working, increasing their funding and etc, the upshot being that their score goes up and they'll be more difficult in the future. This is a bit of a slippery slope though, might not be a good game mechanic.

-Research missions gather intel on the target nation (persons of interest etc) and genetic data - cheap and modestly effective (requires a small scout)
--As mentioned, it's possible to use more or better ships than the requirements.
-Harvest missions gather more genetic data and organic matter (requires medium scout + harvester)
-Abduction missions gather a lot of intel (mind probing and such), but less genetic data and organic matter (medium scout + abductor)
--Harvesters and Abductors are poorly armed and as such not generally worth sending on missions outside their speciality.
-Terror missions reduce XCOM's score a lot (medium scout + large scout + terror ship)
-Infiltration missions require intel on the target nation before they can be undertaken, but result in XCOM's score going down a lot and you get a free base! (large scout + supply ship + battleship)
--If it fails, you have to get the intel all over again.
-Alien Base missions create Alien Bases. Natch. (large scout + supply ship + supply ship)
--Bases "generate" organic matter and genetic data continuously, but may be assaulted just like your ships.
-Retaliation missions are used to take out XCOM bases for good. Get all of them to win the game. (large scout + terror ship + battleship)

-XCOM's score determines how many bases they have. Though this too is rather slippery slopery...
--Losing a base reduces their score proportionally.

-XCOM's tech level on the other hand isn't dependent on their success in the fight against you, and increases regardless.
--Better win fast or make sure you're up to facing teamfuls of flying psionics with blaster launchers!

-If both their tech level and score are above a certain point, Cydonia itself gets assaulted. For them it's not an all-or-nothing though, they can just keep attacking.

Huh, this got rather long... I guess I just like the idea.
Geoscape would have new buttons like so.
In the base view (MARS button) you construct facilities, clone troops, manufacture equipment. Ideally, you'd have unlimited space.
You *cannot* do anything with Alien Bases on Earth, they just automatically produce stuff and send it to Mars.

-Alien Hangar - holds ships, natch.
--Need an empty one to build a new ship.
--Reserved during missions until ship returns or is lost.
--Start with 3, one empty, the other two containing a small and a medium scout.

-Crystallization Chambers - produce Elerium continuously when manned.
--Better personnel improve production speed.

-Alloy Factory - produces Alien Alloys continuously when manned.

-Alien Workshop - where you manufacture stuff. Grenades, UFO Power Sources, ships...
--The cost for better stuff rises exponentially, so while you can make battleships and heavy plasmas straight away the cost is prohibitive; you'll want a solid industrial base first.

-Cloning Vats - used to create more aliens from organic matter.
--Genetic data needed to make anything better than Sectoid Soldiers
--Aliens also require other resources according to type (ex. Floaters need a bit of Alloys+Elerium, Cyberdiscs a lot, Ethereals just tons of genetic data)

-Alien Quarters - food, sleeping pods, alien entertainment... you name it, they've got it! Needed to house aliens.

-Alien Stores - holds materials, equipment, etc.

-Hyperwave Communications - for each one of these, you can have an additional mission in progress.

-Equip ships and aliens much like XCOM does.
-"Research" button/screen is replaced with "Workers", where you decide who goes where in the chambers/factories.
-"Purchase/Hire" replaced with "Cloning".
-"Sell/Sack" replaced with "Recycle". Fortunately, aliens are 100% loyal and won't hesitate in following orders even here.


Difficulty: inverse to vanilla (XVICI Beginner == play as Super"human" Aliens against XCOM) https:// (XVICI Super"human" == play as Beginner Aliens against XCOM)

Beginner: rates increased for cloning, alloy and elerium generation, faster productions for ships, weapons, etc
Superhuman: rates decreased for cloning, alloy and elerium generation, slower productions for ships, weapons, etc

Resources: Money == organic material (human bodies), org. materials used for: alien cloning, unlocking research, enhancing manufacturing, slurry (food) https:// Alien Brain - Hive Synapses (scientists), Hive Replicators (engineers); max of 100 combined (e.g., 99 synapse, 1 replicator / limited by "living quarters"?) (Player controls # of each, similar mechanic to Harmony race in Endless Space "Body & Mind gauge")

Research: none at start; requires corpses and live captures, unlocks learning arrays (tech tree to make cloning higher ranked aliens faster), enhances manufacturing capabilities (eventually churn out bigger ships faster, better equipped aliens, etc; maintain the same feel inversely to XCOM), flavor researches (info on militaries, countries, eventually XCOM; improve score gains in certain areas or increased damage, etc? not sure what is possible via modding/coding)

Manufacturing: alien alloys - free, fastest rate on Cydonia, used to make ufo components, ships, weapons, certain aliens, etc; elerium - either made by fraction of alien alloys or free, but manufactured at a fraction rate of alien alloys (1/5, 1/20, etc??), used as fuel for ships, to make ufo components (small amounts for navigation, food, reproduction, surgery, examination room, entertainment; lots for power source), weapons, certain aliens
* rates should be conducive to allow production of ships within first month, and appropriate ships for specific months (difficulty variable), appropriate weapons based on month (difficulty variable)

Recycle/Purge: sell/sack shouldnt really be needed, but based more on selling corpses/live captures for "money" (organic material), as well as selling Hive Synapses/Replicators (either free or sell amount same as purchase amount) to adjust rate of research/manufacture (e.g., start with 50 synapses/50 replicators, first month best to shift to almost 100 replicators; research from start may be necessary for "balance")

First Base: not sure on coding limits, but pre-built to represent as cydonia. possible to hide from geoscape? or put north/south pole. "second base" represent "first" alien base, and so on. possible to shrink hanger to 1x1, and/or allow more than 1 craft to occupy a hangar?
* Secondary bases will be able to act as a "slower" main base (no research, only production but rate is halved compared to Cydonia's; creating need for multiple bases) but also ability to take over countries via propaganda (cult of sirius in a sense, country will form pact with aliens, once no "Free" countries left, aliens "win" until XCOM 2: the retakening) as well as able to construct human cloning facility (which basically will be able to take live captures via manufacture and double them; exponential). Alien base facilities will have high requirements (possible to require X alloys, X elerium, etc?) that can eventually house ufos, aliens, alloy/elerium aka mini secondary bases.

Equip Craft: ufos require certain ranks to fly; tech loophole with equip armour? so as to prevent players from just filling battleships with soldiers. required ranks can be equal to or greater than, unlike vanilla. (e.g., large scout ufo - usually has soldiers, a navigator, an engineer; XVICI can have 1 commander, and 1 leader to replace 2 soldiers)

Soldiers: cloning required; lower ranks faster to clone but lower stats and lower caps; higher ranks longer to clone but higher starting stats, much higher caps. "promotions" still exist; "fresh podling", "blooded", "elite", etc. cloning: ethereals require extreme amount of org. material ("money") and time; 3-6 months (difficulty variable); likewise for other races; sectoids requiring small amounts and relatively quickly (2-4 weeks, rank & difficulty variable, but should be quick enough to make for additional first month missions), floaters should be similar, albeit a little higher amount/slightly longer (flying is useful)

Missions: send scouts to uncover "terror sites" (functional to terror missions), which player can send ufos to land and attack civilians (some defenseless, some armed with melee and/or guns, higher alien("player") score = potential local militia, armies, etc) https:// OR patrolling with ufo in set location will generate "alien" base which "XCOM" can perform retaliation to mimic vanilla gameplay?. chance of encountering paramilitary squads; not just XCOM. extremely high deployment numbers = counteract high-tech small squad of aliens, as well as emphasizing need for organic material; aliens can risk being overrun. research should require very high amounts of corpses (100s, 1000s?).

Meta: player focus on "terrorizing" earth; focus on abducting; choice between research with bodies or selling for organic material which used for cloning, food (missions require X amount of food?)

Bottlenecks: research (to increase rate of cloning, leading to increased missions, eventually overtaking Earth); organic material (aliens will never be able to collect enough through abductions, must construct alien bases); alien bases (can't "win" as countries will fund XCOM, increases rate of resource collectionm, allowing more ships/aliens/weapons/etc, essentially ramps up end-game)

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