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ya know, those aren't boxes. they're the tail end of the craft. go up a level and you can see the roof connecting them.
No, no, no, you're making a confusion with when he stared at an Ethereal for more than a moment and its robe caught fire.
You can't really improve it - yeah you can raise the ship's belly into the air, for example, but this would kill the most important advantage of Skymarshall. I guess the only way to do it would be to design such a tileset/map that keeps all the tactical features but allows to present the unconvinced with a compelling proof of realistic and sound engineering
Yes, it is completely unrealistic and even ugly as heck! I think everyone agrees.
It's just an easy fix, a compromise if you will, to get rid of the greatest weakness of the Skyranger and increase playability, nothing more nothing less. If you (or anybody else) has time, you can create a completely new realistically-looking craft with the same floor plan as Skymarshall... but it's a lot of work.
I don't know.. I think it's unfair to consider the new one without considering the old one + mods. XCom 2012 has pistol+rifle+shotgun+heavy (machine gun style)+sniper. The original only has pistol+rifle+heavy (high powered rifle style).
With this limitation, the old one indeed is reduced to everyone in flying suits with heavy plasmas. But with some tweaking to reproduce the weapon selection (ex.: what I did in the XAE), you can easily create a situation where having rifles, heavies, shotguns and snipers as main weapons is superior to spamming any one of them.
The only way XCom 2012 found of doing that is by restricting weapons to classes instead of actually making all weapons attractive. Why can't my sniper shoot a regular rifle if I need him to be mobile for that mission? Or even worse: early game, all the assaults and supports blast away with light plasma rifles, but your heavy and sniper are stuck with laser stuff (if they're lucky) since they can't grasp the concept of using a different weapon...
Of course, that's made more significant by having only 6 soldiers in your 1 plane (). If you have larger crews like in the original, specialist roles become more interesting because you can still have a few generalists.
Just to break my silence, I'd add that the SkyRanger and Interceptor were prototypes in dealing with a threat humanity had yet to understand and based solely on human technology.
In terms of immersion, I'd be shocked if XCOM made an upgrade craft that didn't take into account what they learned about fighting aliens, as well as the benefits of improved alien alloy. I mean, how many operatives need to get toasted going down the ramp before an XCOM engineer goes: "Hmmmm... maybe that ramp could be improved...." All XCOM improvements slowly go from earth-inspired tech to sci-fi, so in my mind the Alloy Skyranger is just a step away from what we know and towards what humanity can do with this new tech.
I'm just saying.
I'm no engineer, but I think alloys are sturdy enough for the wings to support the weight of the craft. I mean, it's ridiculously good. I agree it looks a bit bizarre to us though.
The Skymarshall is indeed far better than the Skyranger. If it didn't allow any extra soldiers at all, or even reduced the number of soldiers I could bring by one, I would still choose it over the Skyranger. Even if I were allowed two fewer soldiers than normal, there are many missions I would bring a Skymarshall on. For instance, the protection and automatic doors are a massive help during terror missions.
The problem is that it needs to fuck my immersion in order to do it 
If the AI could behave properly and shoot it (I bet a heavy plasma can damage the engines, let along a blaster bomb or elerium grenade), and it was destructible, you'd see more crafts like Dioxine's piratez craft for fast aggressive deployments and fewer of these weird safe ones.
I might have liked the class system, if the skills were more balanced (admittedly, I did use 2 assault builds, 2 support builds, but only one sniper and heavy) and especially if you could pick/nominate the class when a soldier "graduates" to squaddie.
In which reality do you say: "I need a machine gunner for the squad!" and get 3 guys stepping up answering "I can use a sniper rifle!"? That was insanely annoying.
The variety in abilities was a nice touch, but you don't need classes for that. In my XCom games, I have ~5 defined roles for my soldiers, that are assigned depending on reactions, accuracy and strength (along with available equipment). Only in the vanilla version is there an obviously better setup that you can just spam. With all the mods we have, you can have breachers, scouts, supports, heavies and snipers all operating well and covering each others' weaknesses naturally through equipment choices. And if your heavy gets injured, someone else can pick up the rocket launcher.
The game is too dumbed down to be worthy of anything but a "mobile game" qualification. It is simple so you don't need much info, much GUI or even many clicks, which makes it a mobile game. Looking at the video, it doesn't seem to have changed much. Classes still guide your equipment choices, I'd expect obvious direct upgrades and obvious superior specs (if they even keep the choices..). I much prefer the old system we have with just stats and the player can decide what they actually want their soldiers to do.
Been playing the game with the death coffin (skyranger) and still I am against having the skymarshall the way it is.
A dangerous ramp, doesnt mean a completely illogical craft design and a random buffer just because.
And here to the guy who said keep TFTD out. See what you are missing...I am the same guy.
That's an interesting opinion.
1/ I can understand how ramp helps going (easier) into multiple direction... Skymarshall has two new doors for that... shame you cannot shoot diagonally when standing at the doorstep. Otherwise it would be perfect.
2/ However, I really fail to see how ramp provides cover (or any other advantage).
In my opinion even Skyranger (not Skymarshall) without a ramp would be a lot safer... not to mention Skymarshall's additional protection.
If anything ramp makes it harder for you to spot aliens, although they can see (and shoot at) you.
And even if you are indeed lucky enough to spot them in mutual surprise, you will usually have to take one more step (or kneel down) because of no line of fire... and the alien(s) will reaction fire.
Ramp is a death trap...
Well I think speaking of being "offended" is simply childish. Whatever Skymarshall is, it is most definitely NOT a "Hellrazor's Perfect Dropship" (if such a thing exists at all - design your own dropship before throwing such large stones, Hellrazor). No. As I understand this, Skymarshall is basically a quickly prototyped dropship that tries to adress the major problems of the Skyranger - namely, being an Omaha-Beach style flying mass grave (and limited speed and troop capacity). Skymarshall solves some issues while introducing a few new issues. Normal stuff. If it is so bad a weapon in your Commander's eyes, don't use it at all. Definitely it forces changing your approach to the landing zone problem. But it's always your decision. Maybe there should be more varied dropship designs available for those who are dissatisfied with the Skymarshall and want to push the technology further towards perfection. Whatever they consider to be perfection.
The point I'm trying to make is that yes, you should reserve your judgements until the game comes out, because you might have overlooked some important details that would have definitely changed your opinion. I anticipate that the mods will also be a factor to this, but like you said, we have to wait until release.
Both of you seem to be forgetting something, the ability to mod the game with proper tools. So one of you thinks the plot is stupid and the other thinks the gameplay leaves more to be desired. I think 2k games made the right decision to add bonafide modding tools, because now you are able to counteract the problems they put in the vanilla game! Plus, the OpenXcom community is full of modders and I trust that you guys can make outstanding mods for it once the game comes out, right?
Why should i? I can stand on a bazillion of Blasterbombs in the transport.
