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The X-Com Files / Re: Early gun balance
« on: April 22, 2018, 02:28:04 am »
A little bit of gun-nut stuff here:
why is 9x19 guns are so underpowered? because if they all use 9x19, they should have the same damage value, even the hk mp5 (it's 25 damage makes literally any other 9x19 gun worthless). And 9x18 is actually worse in any way (lighter bullet, lower energy), even russian switched to the 9x19.
next, BlackOps SMG listed to use 5.8mm while it's clearly an MP7 that uses 4.6x30
next, mosin and bolt action rifle are both 30 damage, while they are clearly 7.62x54R (at least mosin is, because bolt action rifle is probably something british .303 or .30-06 Springfield) and that is a real rifle round like 7.62 Nato, that is also used in PKM, while for some reason SKS, Groza, AKSU-74 (why 74, they have AKM with folded stock (AKMS) that also uses 7.62x39 unlike AKSU-74 that fits because AKM is modernized version of AK-47) and AK-47 have the same damage value, while 7.62x39 is a much less powerful cartridge (it's an intermidiate one, so it's intended). Nato guns have magical 10% armor penetration while the real 5.56 nato is less powerful compared to the 7.62x39 and even 7.62x54R with 7.62 NATO. Same with SVD as it uses 7.62x54R.
as for groza, current description is so bullshit (also the fact that it's AIMS BETTER is not really accurate, it was found to have harder aim, but it should have better aim/less time units in auto due of balance created by bull-pup scheme and the later can be the same with all bull-pup weapons) i think you should start it with "this AKS-74U-based weapon", because it's not really an AK replacement (also it's a variant of OTs-12 Tiss), it's a gun for Spetsnaz, in 7.62x39 configuration.
As for nato guns, they kinda look weirdly balanced (m16 has the best aimed accuracy while having only aperture while it should have the best auto (x3) bursts (that's what stoner wanted it to be, really), FAMAS has the same timeunits for bursts as other rifles while having better handling due of being a bull-pup and having a higher rate of fire and also the same thing as with m16, it has aperture sights), same thing about aperture sights and optics could be said about rifles as well. Also older rifles should have less accuracy on aim due of them not having more advanced optics and the og optics are probably gone bad too due of age.
why is 9x19 guns are so underpowered? because if they all use 9x19, they should have the same damage value, even the hk mp5 (it's 25 damage makes literally any other 9x19 gun worthless). And 9x18 is actually worse in any way (lighter bullet, lower energy), even russian switched to the 9x19.
next, BlackOps SMG listed to use 5.8mm while it's clearly an MP7 that uses 4.6x30
next, mosin and bolt action rifle are both 30 damage, while they are clearly 7.62x54R (at least mosin is, because bolt action rifle is probably something british .303 or .30-06 Springfield) and that is a real rifle round like 7.62 Nato, that is also used in PKM, while for some reason SKS, Groza, AKSU-74 (why 74, they have AKM with folded stock (AKMS) that also uses 7.62x39 unlike AKSU-74 that fits because AKM is modernized version of AK-47) and AK-47 have the same damage value, while 7.62x39 is a much less powerful cartridge (it's an intermidiate one, so it's intended). Nato guns have magical 10% armor penetration while the real 5.56 nato is less powerful compared to the 7.62x39 and even 7.62x54R with 7.62 NATO. Same with SVD as it uses 7.62x54R.
as for groza, current description is so bullshit (also the fact that it's AIMS BETTER is not really accurate, it was found to have harder aim, but it should have better aim/less time units in auto due of balance created by bull-pup scheme and the later can be the same with all bull-pup weapons) i think you should start it with "this AKS-74U-based weapon", because it's not really an AK replacement (also it's a variant of OTs-12 Tiss), it's a gun for Spetsnaz, in 7.62x39 configuration.
As for nato guns, they kinda look weirdly balanced (m16 has the best aimed accuracy while having only aperture while it should have the best auto (x3) bursts (that's what stoner wanted it to be, really), FAMAS has the same timeunits for bursts as other rifles while having better handling due of being a bull-pup and having a higher rate of fire and also the same thing as with m16, it has aperture sights), same thing about aperture sights and optics could be said about rifles as well. Also older rifles should have less accuracy on aim due of them not having more advanced optics and the og optics are probably gone bad too due of age.