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XPiratez / Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.95

« on: March 04, 2017, 12:23:11 pm »

Post deleted - Dioxine

Pasting a huge post of someone else and adding just a single word of comment is just too rude to be tolerated even here.

It might be a better idea to make a list of rules and perhaps sticky it before deleting posts for arbitary reasons such as "your compliment wasn't long enough" Dioxine.
So I'll rephrase it: "Good to see more progress, I like the choice of the diplomacy picture" instead of "Nice!"

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Suggestions / Re: Active Alien Geoscape AI - has anyone ever taken a stab at this?

« on: February 24, 2017, 02:34:14 pm »

Bump. Is Stoddard still working on this?
And if not can someone else pick this up?
It looks very interesting but I have no coding knowledge.

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XPiratez / Re: [MAIN] XPiratez - 0.99F.1 - 13 Feb - Slave Wars

« on: February 22, 2017, 02:24:02 pm »

2) Inspirations are multiple. Heavy Metal was one of the most crucial ones, tho. Another one is B-movies in general. Third is classical sci-fi, from Lensman through Lexx to Master of Orion 2. Lots of it is original content, picked from various life experiences... also, East, in general.

Heavy Metal and Master of Orion, good taste 

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XPiratez / Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74

« on: February 21, 2017, 11:44:49 am »

Good discussion, and I see your point, Dioxine. 

I think when all is said and done, I'll revert the mod to just deal with the nudity aspect, (silly as that is) and step back from the 3 substitutions for:

These do take much more artistic license.  I'll either recommend these to Roxis' alt bootypedia mod or release another minor one, myself.  It will make things much clearer in regards to the purpose of this mod.

Thanks

Good idea, I'm looking forward to your mods.

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XPiratez / Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74

« on: February 20, 2017, 03:47:35 pm »

@KGBGhost: I suggest reading post you answer to before answering them. Changing name was the first thing I suggested, since it's the only problem I have with this. Use glasses if needed. Unless your intent was flamebaiting, then you've almost succeeded by now.

That's not what I meant, you could've just renamed it to Ivan's Bootypedia Pictures for the time being yourself. It doesn't have to be a bureaucracy you know.
I really doubt Ivan would be hurt by that and you could have personally talked to Ivan without making a big deal about it in the thread.
The reason you see it as flamebaiting is because you need to keep your temper in check when it comes to criticism, seriously it's not worth it getting an aneurysm over xcom mods.

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XPiratez / Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74

« on: February 20, 2017, 03:36:49 pm »

It's not really my place to speak, since it's not my mod, Piratez is not my mod either. Also it's no secret that Sioxine is my buddy in real life and I've worked with him on various projects for at 15 years, which doesn't really put me in a favourable position to speak. But I consider Ivan a good friend too, he's a talented mod tweaker and one of the nicest people around here. So here goes.

The mod's purpose was expressly describes as:

Dioxine was supportive of this idea from the start, or in fact neutral (I personally think the idea of being offended by pixelated cartoon breasts is just flat-out retarded and bordering on insane, so he's actually way more positive towards the idea than I am). He gave his blessing and all.

But the problem is with those other pictures. Dioxine expressly stated (at least on the Discord channel) that he's perfectly fine with a mod changing the Ufopaedia, or anything else, as everyone is free to mod anything; otherwise Piratez could never happen either. But he explained that if a mod is stated to only censor some pictures, but in fact changes some other ones into something that conveys a different message, then it's not right. And I understand why: those pictures, even if sub-par graphically, were there for a reason, and some of them were changed that Dioxine didn't like on an ideological level - mostly about being rather objectifying towards the women rather than empowering them, as the original art intended. This creates a problem that a potential player expects to play the mod as intended minus the boobs, but in fact receives something that conveys a different message, and one the original author doesn't support (duh). I'm sure Ivan did not intend it, and probably never though of it, but it still holds.

Has Dioxine overreacted? Maybe he didn't express himself well enough. But it's not about his social skills, it's about the spirit of a creative work, which is kinda justified. Calling it "a knee jerk reaction" is completely ignorant, though understandable from someone who is not a creator.

So I am inclined to agree there are two ways of mending this:

1) Change the mod name to something else, like for example "Ivan's Bootypedia Pictures". Then it would clearly state that the work is not endorsed by the original creator - basically fan fiction - and everyone is happy.

2) Leave the title as is, but stop playing with the original message.

I'm sure Dioxine would support both solutions too. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want conflict, isn't angry with Ivan or anything, they seem (I think) to be on really friendly terms too.. But these sort of things naturally happen with any creative process and must be resolved before devolving into something toxic. It's a perfectly normal process.

Thanks for the clarification.
What I meant with knee jerk reaction is that this situation could've been resolved pretty quickly by changing the name of the mod like you said.
Though, I still don't see the ideological differences. Isn't Dioxine's version also objectifying women?

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XPiratez / Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74

« on: February 20, 2017, 10:54:27 am »

Also @Ivan, I'm not attacking you, no need to get so defensive, really. I'm always pro-modding but I can't take you 100% seriously with such examples of 'nudity' you're removing, as attached; you have said making this more friendly to people who dislike nudity was the goal, that's how you got my agreement to include it in the distribution package. Now, seeing it's clearly just a secondary concern for you, I have no choice but to cancel that agreement. No hard feelings, please. It's just not what we agreed upon.

I'm even more puzzled by this, how is it such a problem that Ivan decided to change other things besides the nudity?
Assuming that the mod can be activated and deactivated why is it such a big deal?
Seems like a knee jerk reaction.

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XPiratez / Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74

« on: February 20, 2017, 09:59:17 am »

Never said he's doing a bad job, but the intent isn't that clear

The current bootypedia art is pretty bad, this mod tries to improve that.
One of the reasons why is because the art is inconsistent in quality.
Another reason is that some of the pictures are really weird, not even the funny type of weird.
Lastly there's the NSFW aspect (not neccessarily bad but really oversaturated in this case), it turns off a lot of people from X-piratez and I'd bet it would have been more popular if the bootypedia wasn't crowded of softcore porn.
Though, there's some really good pictures as well, but they're overshadowed by the others.

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XPiratez / Re: [MAIN] XPiratez - 0.99F.1 - 13 Feb - Slave Wars

« on: February 16, 2017, 05:06:04 pm »

The easy mode for Organgrinder view issues is use Night Vision.  The units and items stand out in color while the rest of the (admittedly extremely smokey and explodey) environment is monotone.

Ah, I'll try that, thanks.

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XPiratez / Re: [MAIN] XPiratez - 0.99F.1 - 13 Feb - Slave Wars

« on: February 16, 2017, 02:58:59 pm »

Because I'm an evil tyrant, obviously. And don't even have idea what that 'clutter' of yours means.

As for map reviewing: the 3d engine is there, one would only need to add a 'flying camera' code (I think Volutar fiddled with this already) to look around the whole map in real time...

Like nrafield said, the map ends up looking like shit because there's smoke everywhere.
It's just really unpleasant to play through it when you need to put extra effort on seeing enemies on the screen.

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XPiratez / Re: [MAIN] XPiratez - 0.99F.1 - 13 Feb - Slave Wars

« on: February 15, 2017, 09:41:53 pm »

How blowing half the map up isn't an interesting experience? Gotta check your life priorities, man
Seriously tho, you're not supposed to like the mission.

Why add the mission if people won't like it though?
I understand if you added it because it's a difficult mission but like he said the problem isn't difficulty but the clutter.

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XPiratez / Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.31

« on: February 11, 2017, 02:10:54 pm »

This is a good idea. I think some of the images in the bootypedia are really out of place, not because of nudity but some just look like they were taken straight from DeviantArt and simply don't fit.
Besides that, streamers might be able to give X-Piratez more publicity.

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OpenXcom Extended (OXCE) / Re: [OXCE+] Meridian's resources and mods for (not only) X-PirateZ

« on: February 11, 2017, 01:47:21 pm »

I noticed the thread still says X-Piratez isn't compatible.
But X-Piratez 0.99F came out, right?