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Title: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: Slaughter on May 22, 2020, 12:52:04 am
Hi. I recently went on a Ski Resort mission, and I noticed something curious: Light Pistols are considered sports gear, but Snubnose Pistols are not. Which is a pity because they seem pretty decent-ish.

Any reason why? Seems like Light Pistols get in because they're easily concealable, so Snubnose guns should fit likewise.

 

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Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: Marrik on May 22, 2020, 05:49:43 am
Are you thinking of spy pistols? I'm pretty sure you can't take light pistols
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: Slaughter on May 22, 2020, 08:29:36 am
Are you thinking of spy pistols? I'm pretty sure you can't take light pistols
No, Snubnose. The little 1-grid revolvers you can buy at the start.

And you can, because I took a bunch.

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Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: xcomfan on May 22, 2020, 09:39:03 am
Something like that might be more appropriated: click (https://www.google.com/search?q=sport+pistol&client=ubuntu&hs=Kh4&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjk35317cbpAhXKvosKHfsZABcQ_AUoAXoECA0QAw&biw=1280&bih=670)
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on May 22, 2020, 10:44:06 am
No, there's no way you can smuggle in something like this when you can't do it with a smaller one.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: xcomfan on May 22, 2020, 02:04:01 pm
No, there's no way you can smuggle in something like this when you can't do it with a smaller one.

Actually if a sporting rifle might be present, cannot see why gor instance a ISSF 25 meter pistol (http://) not. It has a capacity of 2/3 rounds. But whatever!
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on May 22, 2020, 02:18:09 pm
Actually if a sporting rifle might be present, cannot see why gor instance a ISSF 25 meter pistol (http://) not. It has a capacity of 2/3 rounds. But whatever!

why not 12345763768 other fucking weapon designs which somehow weren't added to the mod yet oh God I wonder why.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: xcomfan on May 22, 2020, 02:23:22 pm
ahah no sorry this time around it's a sport tool!! ;D
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: X-Man on May 22, 2020, 02:31:08 pm
I don't really know about ski-missions... but I really want to use THIS hellish device on the beach ones!  ;D
(https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-mpic/200316/img_id4133575471051493225/orig)
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on May 22, 2020, 02:48:32 pm
I don't really know about ski-missions... but I really want to use THIS hellish device on the beach ones!  ;D

You know, I'm going to consider it, since it obviously wouldn't do any damage. :)

Any suggestions for effects? Just not too wacky.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: X-Man on May 22, 2020, 03:04:34 pm
You know, I'm going to consider it, since it obviously wouldn't do any damage. :)

Any suggestions for effects? Just not too wacky.

Hmm, let me think... A damage to morale, perhaps. Why?
Well, if I were a target I would become very furious if someone assful tried to piss on me from this toy! ;D

UPD: The only variant I can imagine is a chemical damage. Some chemical mixture which become toxic in response to oxygen. A real chemical weapon disguised as a water pistol.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: HT on May 22, 2020, 03:54:04 pm
Hmm, let me think... A damage to morale, perhaps. Why?
Well, if I were a target I would become very furious if someone assful tried to piss on me from this toy! ;D

UPD: The only variant I can imagine is a chemical damage. Some chemical mixture which become toxic in response to oxygen. A real chemical weapon disguised as a water pistol.

Ah yes, the water gun that shot acid, a classic weapon from Fallout Tactics IIRC. That would be hilarious to have, if highly immoral difficult to justify to the council. Perhaps it requires knowing alien chems and Promotion 2 at least.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: Slaughter on May 22, 2020, 04:12:44 pm
Fallout Tactics had a water squirter pistol, and with the right ammo, it became an acid pistol. Pretty good if I remember right.


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Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: HT on May 22, 2020, 05:53:59 pm
If you want guns to bring to Ski resort/Beach missions, I recommend waiting a little more.

There's one certain BlackOps Spygun that you can bring anywhere.

That, or bring Dart Pistols. Or an angry dog to hide in corners and bite your enemies to death.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: justaround on May 22, 2020, 06:22:36 pm
Aren't hybrids running around with acid weapons that look like damn toys?
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on May 23, 2020, 01:30:26 pm
Aren't hybrids running around with acid weapons that look like damn toys?

They totally do!

(But Osiron generally knows about hybrid tech.)
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: Thermite on May 24, 2020, 08:21:37 pm
Hmm, let me think... A damage to morale, perhaps. Why?
Well, if I were a target I would become very furious if someone assful tried to piss on me from this toy! ;D

UPD: The only variant I can imagine is a chemical damage. Some chemical mixture which become toxic in response to oxygen. A real chemical weapon disguised as a water pistol.

Just to add to the injury, say that the gun is loaded with the agent's urine.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: mumble on May 25, 2020, 06:43:01 am
In regards to a larger caliber sneaking pistol, maybe something along the lines of the Double tap pistol? http://www.doubletapdefense.com/ 2 rounds of 45, when you absolutely need a large(ish) caliber in a compact(ish) size. As for a water pistol, though its not my idea, -10 reactions -5 time total time units to emulate a "did you seriously just shoot me with a water pistol during a gunfight? are you high?" kinda reaction would be good. I was going to say a -5 to combat stats too, but that might be too much.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Snubnose Pistols as Sport Gear?
Post by: Slaughter on May 25, 2020, 08:25:56 am
In regards to a larger caliber sneaking pistol, maybe something along the lines of the Double tap pistol? http://www.doubletapdefense.com/ 2 rounds of 45, when you absolutely need a large(ish) caliber in a compact(ish) size. As for a water pistol, though its not my idea, -10 reactions -5 time total time units to emulate a "did you seriously just shoot me with a water pistol during a gunfight? are you high?" kinda reaction would be good. I was going to say a -5 to combat stats too, but that might be too much.
Wow that's a cool idea.

Idk but I think the light pistol fires a small caliber like .22 and Snubnose fires something bigger like .38? Following that:

- Small Caliber, lots of shots: Light Pistol
- Medium caliber, medium quantity of shots: Snubnose Pistol
- Big Caliber, Two Shots: Double-Tap or similar

Something like double-tap seems like a nasty surprise in the hands of some enemies in missions where the enemy carries stuff like the Light Pistol.



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