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Title: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: Marrik on October 29, 2019, 05:13:27 am
Is there a list of usable gear for the surfing missions posted somewhere? So far I've figured out that knives and tasers are usable
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: TheCurse on October 29, 2019, 10:06:39 am
there´s an item category "surfing gear" that is on usable items on info button in ufopedia, so you can go through all items and make a list yourself...
IMO there should be a list though.
small pistols work too, best is spy pistol.
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: X-Man on October 29, 2019, 12:31:24 pm
small pistols work too, best is spy pistol.

No. They work only for 'industrial' and 'ski' missions.
Among all long-range lethal weapons only a crossbow can be equipped on surfing missions.
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: TheCurse on October 29, 2019, 01:49:12 pm
not even that? damn...
can we at least get bullet proof surfboards? kinda like the xeno shields...
going in speedos with crossbows against properly armed cult guys is kinda expensive on replacement costs on the long term...
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: X-Man on October 29, 2019, 02:26:43 pm
not even that? damn...
can we at least get bullet proof surfboards? kinda like the xeno shields...
going in speedos with crossbows against properly armed cult guys is kinda expensive on replacement costs on the long term...

Just make an ambush near the door in the backroom of initial house with dogs/guys-with-machetes, and it will be fine for the first turns.
After a few kills grab fallens' weapons and shoot for your pleasure  ;)
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: Alex_D on October 30, 2019, 02:36:33 pm
Just make an ambush near the door in the backroom of initial house with dogs/guys-with-machetes, and it will be fine for the first turns.
After a few kills grab fallens' weapons and shoot for your pleasure  ;)

This. It also helps if the mission is done at night. However, although flashlights are usually an advantage, special care is needed in this mission with any flashlight left on the starting tile, as it may lit the whole room, and thus negating the dark cover. It's best to put them in the back room, toss them out of the house as soon as possible, or just bring electro-flares.
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: sedygrizly on October 30, 2019, 02:45:49 pm
This. It also helps if the mission is done at night. However, although flashlights are usually an advantage, special care is needed in this mission with any flashlight left on the starting tile, as it may lit the whole room, and thus negating the dark cover. It's best to put them in the back room, toss them out of the house as soon as possible, or just bring electro-flares.

Why on earth would you do such mission during night? It stays at globus for many days...
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: Alex_D on October 30, 2019, 08:57:51 pm
Why on earth would you do such mission during night? It stays at globus for many days...
Several reasons:
- To avoid reaction fire of pistols against crossbows.
- Sometimes the enemy units spawn too close to the beach house.
- They are not aliens, so the enemy units will always be hampered by darkness. It is not that they use incendiary rounds against the X-Com agents.
- Swimsuit and sunglasses at night look cool  :)

In fact, I usually delay the start so I do my vs Humans missions at night, and my vs Aliens missions at day.
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: Marrik on November 04, 2019, 12:00:49 am
IMO, if the female agent is topless on the inventory screen, their character model should be topless too
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: TheCurse on November 04, 2019, 12:07:53 am
ok thats a reason to go on more surfing missions again.
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on November 04, 2019, 12:25:28 am
IMO, if the female agent is topless on the inventory screen, their character model should be topless too

Sadly, one sprite for all :)

Unless I make the bra invisible. But it'd look weird, no nipples.
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: TheCurse on November 04, 2019, 12:57:01 am
damn.
wait what about hybrids actually?
have you seen Total Recall...?  ;D
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: Arcalane on November 04, 2019, 02:06:03 am
Is there a list of usable gear for the surfing missions posted somewhere? So far I've figured out that knives and tasers are usable

Use Stats For Nerds (hit "INFO" on a weapon's ufopaedia page); weapons have categories/tags on them that will tell you what missions they can be taken on. Weapons that you can take to the Beach should be marked "All Beach Gear".

Options include:
Nonlethal Ranged- Dart Pistol/Rifle, Taser
Lethal Ranged- Crossbow, Flare Gun*
Melee- Machete, Combat Knife, Knife, Shiv, Master's Cane, Golf Club, Baseball Bat, Club, Boombox, Surfboard, Extinguisher
Other- Flashlight, Flare, All healing items EXCEPT Healing Gel

*Technically lethal, as it does 20 incendiary damage with a small radius. It will almost certainly panic the target if you can score a hit. The crossbow does quite a bit more damage though, in good hands.
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: X-Man on November 05, 2019, 02:08:38 pm
I've noticed, that last time on surf missions 1-2 of those bastards walking around with primed grenades. When one of them coming into the house and dying under reaction strikes, he blows up all the team. Mission failed, congrats... Seems they became smarter in 1.0.
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: TheCurse on November 05, 2019, 02:18:51 pm
on fearing of loosing the only half decent ranged weapon there...
why would a crossbow be acceptable beach equipment?
i could imagine a harpoon gun. but a crossbow on a beach? why...?

how about throwing knifes though.
they could be useful and not too obvious there...
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on November 05, 2019, 07:35:38 pm
on fearing of loosing the only half decent ranged weapon there...
why would a crossbow be acceptable beach equipment?
i could imagine a harpoon gun. but a crossbow on a beach? why...?

Well, crossbow fishing is a thing.

how about throwing knifes though.
they could be useful and not too obvious there...

Debatable. One could argue either way, so I went with no.
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: Marrik on November 05, 2019, 10:13:28 pm
on fearing of loosing the only half decent ranged weapon there...
why would a crossbow be acceptable beach equipment?
i could imagine a harpoon gun. but a crossbow on a beach? why...?

how about throwing knifes though.
they could be useful and not too obvious there...

Why any weapon restrictions? It's pretty bizarre and suspicious for my group of surfer dudes to have tasers and machetes, in some ways that's MORE suspicious than having a gun. And it's not as if there's actually any stealth or subterfuge in the mission itself, there's guys with SMG's and grenades opening fire on the beach house from the word go.
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: TheCurse on November 06, 2019, 12:24:14 am
depends. on a texas beach guns should be fine...  ;)
the stealth part is before the mission starts. actually getting to the bad guys without them noticing you and running...
the restrictions are hard though. there´s no armor at all and hardly anything usable at range.
but there´s so many ways to hide a gun when going to the beach...
ever heard someone say "is that a sawed off shotgun or are you just happy to see me?"  ;D
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: LytaRyta on November 06, 2019, 01:30:57 am
^^  ~~

:o :D :D :DDD lôl

lôl you thCurse, you

:lôl ;D



..such Magnum, or ;375 Beretta,  in pants ;D
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: karnaugh_map on November 06, 2019, 07:03:42 am
Is the enemy AI different for this mission? On several occasions it seemed like the enemy barely ever shot at my units.
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on November 08, 2019, 10:03:30 am
Is the enemy AI different for this mission? On several occasions it seemed like the enemy barely ever shot at my units.

No, there is no such thing as a different AI in X-Com. There is only one AI.
You can only manipulate aggression and intelligence.
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: Marrik on November 10, 2019, 03:45:01 am
^^  ~~

:o :D :D :DDD lôl

lôl you thCurse, you

:lôl ;D



..such Magnum, or ;375 Beretta,  in pants ;D

Ranged tasers are illegal almost everywhere, even in most places where guns are not.
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on November 11, 2019, 04:48:54 pm
Ranged tasers are illegal almost everywhere, even in most places where guns are not.

Apparently they're only illegal if they exceed 10mA.
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: Goth on January 25, 2020, 09:34:16 pm
I have found that using dogs as agents works well on surfing missions. I take two agents armed with Dart rifles and two or three dogs. I keep the agents safe while my dogs search buildings and kill the Enemy. Then my agents move in and take the weapons. Have the dogs work as a pack though. Dont have them running around on their own. This tactic also works well in the early game against sectoids when assaulting their craft. A pack of dogs can kill the entire crew in no time
Title: Re: Surfing mission gear list?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on January 26, 2020, 11:15:30 am
I have found that using dogs as agents works well on surfing missions. I take two agents armed with Dart rifles and two or three dogs. I keep the agents safe while my dogs search buildings and kill the Enemy. Then my agents move in and take the weapons. Have the dogs work as a pack though. Dont have them running around on their own. This tactic also works well in the early game against sectoids when assaulting their craft. A pack of dogs can kill the entire crew in no time

Yep, teamwork! Essential for any mission. :)