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Title: [Rejected] Soft Ironman
Post by: Kato on October 23, 2019, 11:19:45 am
Rejection reason: Sorry, but if I could, I would remove also the Hard Ironman feature. It's actively hurting me as a dev that people cannot provide much needed save files. I'm not going to shoot myself in the foot.



I don't want to play Ironman. It is too hard and unforgiving. But also I don't want to be a wascally savescumming wabbit. FLUFF saving each FLUFFIN' turn, but a chance to correct some mistakes is what I would like to have. So, the request:

Soft-Ironman mode. You can save manually only few times per mission (eg. twice).

Logics: manual saving creates a counter in the sav-file, something like saveWarning: 1. When this counter reaches the limit (set up in Global vars), manual saving is disabled. From this point saving on this mission works as classic Ironman. Maybe the counter can be placed in some distant hidden file, so players can't edit it easily - but dunno how to make this working properly (if only all missions would be created with their own unique ID and by that the engine can always clearly determine which counter for which mission was created).
Title: Re: [SUGGESTION] Soft Ironman
Post by: wolfreal on October 23, 2019, 12:15:55 pm
Or... you can enforce it yourself.

What do I do? I don't have automatic save. I have a save the last day of the month, and a working save. Working save is just for when I end playing for the day. I allow myself to repeat the month if it was too bad. I never ever save during missions (Except because I finished playing for the day, but try not to anyways). I unbind quick load / quick save, so no easy access to "accidental loading". If feeling cheaty,  I allow myself a middle month checkpoint.

It is not precisely a super honorable system, but is a compromise between 'macho' Ironman and "loading/reloading cycle until alien miss"
Title: Re: [SUGGESTION] Soft Ironman
Post by: Kato on October 23, 2019, 01:26:32 pm
You are a strong-willed person. And someone is not and must be limited from the outside.
Title: Re: [SUGGESTION] Soft Ironman
Post by: wolfreal on October 24, 2019, 04:11:01 am
You can do it even in ironman. Just copy/paste the save. Heck, access to the savefile is so easy that if you are going to cheat, you will do it anyway.

I don't think the feature has a possibility.