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Title: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: The Martian on December 13, 2017, 03:48:17 pm
I've seen the X-Com research report archive being called both UFOpedia and UFOpaedia.

UFOpedia is the word I see on the in game menus but UFOpaedia can be found being used in several mods.
(Not to mention the UFOpaedia (https://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php/UFOpedia) site)


Which term is the accepted or more commonly used of the two?
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: Hobbes on December 13, 2017, 04:08:39 pm
Which term is the accepted or more commonly used of the two?[/glow]

Both are correct in the sense that both are used in the XCom series: UFOPedia is used on UFO Defense (and USOpedia in TFTD), UFOPaedia is used in Apocalypse (I've checked the manual) and possibly on Interceptor as well.

Both spellings are correct in English, so it really depends on the author's taste regarding which to choose.
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: Warboy1982 on December 13, 2017, 05:15:26 pm
en-GB: UFOpaedia, armour, terrorise
en-US: UFOpedia, armor, terrorize

the democratic process won't change this.
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: Hobbes on December 13, 2017, 06:10:16 pm
en-GB: UFOpaedia, armour, terrorise
en-US: UFOpedia, armor, terrorize

This made me curious if this difference in spellings is also present in the different versions of the game, UFO: Enemy Unknown for the UK edition, XCom: UFO Defense for US
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: The Reaver of Darkness on December 13, 2017, 06:26:54 pm
The original game had a very arcane spelling. Most of the seemingly misspelled words are not spelled like US or UK English. Defence is a good example, as both US and UK spell it 'defense'. I'm not sure where the spelling came from in the first game, but it seems possible to me that it was either a different English dialect or that these are genuine spelling errors due to the lack of a proper editing person on the team.

The original game release was titled UFO: Enemy Unknown, and the US release was titled X-COM: UFO Defence.
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: Warboy1982 on December 13, 2017, 06:42:32 pm
again,
en-GB: Defence
en-US: Defense

the US release used the US spelling:
(http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/7760/header.jpg?t=1447351440)

the words "fence" and "fencing" are both derived from the english "defence".
spelling it with an S is an american corruption, and spelling the derivations with an S looks wrong to everyone.
(fwiw: we use en-GB in Australia)
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: The Martian on December 13, 2017, 11:01:37 pm
I'm not sure where the spelling came from in the first game, but it seems possible to me that it was either a different English dialect . . .
Canada also uses the spelling of "Defence" for that word I believe.
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: The Reaver of Darkness on December 14, 2017, 05:21:47 am
But I saw a video where a British guy said that 'defense' is standard and that 'defence' is an archaic form.
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: Warboy1982 on December 14, 2017, 05:45:02 am
"Don't believe everything you see on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: SupSuper on December 19, 2017, 06:40:10 pm
This made me curious if this difference in spellings is also present in the different versions of the game, UFO: Enemy Unknown for the UK edition, XCom: UFO Defense for US
They were pretty inconsistent. The PC versions mostly used UK spelling and the PSX version mostly used US spelling, so we uniformized it.
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: Hobbes on December 19, 2017, 07:04:34 pm
They were pretty inconsistent. The PC versions mostly used UK spelling and the PSX version mostly used US spelling, so we uniformized it.

If inconsistency was the standard, then you could have kept both spellings distributed in a random manner ;)

Just to annoy those obsessive-compulsive people that can't stand things organized differently ;)
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: ohartenstein23 on December 19, 2017, 08:03:49 pm
Only somewhat uniformized it - the standard ruleset file and tag have it called "ufopaedia," but the text entries follow the format STR_SOME_ITEM_UFOPEDIA.  Also, this wonderful bit from the language file:
Code: [Select]
STR_UFOPAEDIA: "UFOpedia"
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: Warboy1982 on December 19, 2017, 11:58:27 pm
it's almost as though people from different localities worked on the code or something
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: Eyal12 on June 18, 2018, 05:35:20 pm
Its all nonsense, and the world is flat :)
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on June 18, 2018, 07:22:02 pm
Only somewhat uniformized it - the standard ruleset file and tag have it called "ufopaedia," but the text entries follow the format STR_SOME_ITEM_UFOPEDIA.

This distinction actually saved my sanity back when I kept everything in one ruleset file.
Title: Re: UFOpedia vs UFOpaedia?
Post by: Hobbes on June 18, 2018, 09:00:05 pm
Its all nonsense, and the world is flat :)

And the world rests on the back of a giant turtle, which is also standing on top of 4 elephants. Earthquakes happen every time one of them sneezes or decides to scratch.