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Title: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99G4.104 (BugFix)
Post by: ivandogovich on February 09, 2017, 08:16:07 pm
The goal of this mod is to make the game visually a bit less NSFW.  Essentially it will try to replace a lot of the nudity in the bootypedia and some of the background images.

(https://i.imgur.com/zaK3xfc.png)(https://i.imgur.com/fGtv8Oi.png)


Its not that I have any problem with Dioxine's artistic vision and what he has done with the game, its just that due to differences in culture (European vs. USA etc.), the amount of nudity is something that turns some folks off. 
The Yogcast stream was a recent example, and many streamers etc, may be worried about getting dinged for that silliness. 

Because I like the mod enough that I think it deserves a bigger audience, I felt it was worthwhile to put some work into this. 

All images used in this mod will be using the new Custom Palette system that Meridian developed in OXCE+ (https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?topic=4957).  I think this should make these images interesting and attractive.

Progress.

July 18, 2017
Update: Stalled at 99F4. 
99G4 Bugfix has been release with a user fix for the mod not loading (incompatible strings with new XPirateZ build).


Update: 104 images complete. 

Current Image replacement goal:
115 (including Commendations) (Does not include consideration for images added after 99F3.)

Current Image replacements:
104

Note:  In my work, I have also found some images, while not NSFW, visually discordant with the mod, and I have taken the liberty to replace some of those with alternates as well.
Alternates:
3 (Beastmen, Builder's Hall, & Krazy Hanna)

Edit:  These have been redacted in version .81


DOWNLOAD LINK
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3LA7DXD41YYYVVGclZVcGJhaWc/view?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.22
Post by: Solarius Scorch on February 09, 2017, 08:32:13 pm
Hijab version when? :D
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.22
Post by: Zharkov on February 09, 2017, 11:22:05 pm
Is this really happening?
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.22
Post by: khade on February 10, 2017, 02:49:19 am
I know some people who might enjoy this.  Good luck
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.22
Post by: ajnunezr on February 10, 2017, 03:20:00 am
Personally I use the extra naughty mod. But I think this is a good idea. And I like more this cave hunting image :).
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.22
Post by: khade on February 10, 2017, 04:07:26 am
Wait, there's a more naughty mod than the naughty mod? where?   ;D
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.22
Post by: ajnunezr on February 10, 2017, 05:16:56 am
Wait, there's a more naughty mod than the naughty mod? where?   ;D

Haha. Sorry, I talk about the normal naughty mod. i say extra because well, xPiratez is naugthy enough xD.

Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.22
Post by: Roxis231 on February 10, 2017, 06:41:11 am
My brother might be interested in this incase my neice decides she to start playing one of 'daddys games' ( she's 7 )
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.22
Post by: karadoc on February 10, 2017, 08:43:02 am
I'd like for a mod like this to be bundled with the game, alongside the Naughty mod.

I don't think I'd use it myself, but I do think it would broaden the appeal of the game (as long as it is easy enough and obvious enough for interested people to turn it on).
Title: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.31
Post by: ivandogovich on February 10, 2017, 07:07:14 pm
A bit of an update.  31/82 now complete. 
Some samples:

(https://i.imgur.com/RUCJKxV.png)(https://i.imgur.com/S8z2STm.png)(https://i.imgur.com/ael81Af.png)

More coming next week.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.31
Post by: tylor on February 10, 2017, 07:25:50 pm
Like all of them, except Pimpcraft. And #039 picture, while beautiful, is not quite fitting the text.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.31
Post by: Solarius Scorch on February 10, 2017, 07:28:17 pm
Yes, I admit they are quite stunning...
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.31
Post by: Dioxine on February 11, 2017, 12:15:09 am
Like all of them, except Pimpcraft. And #039 picture, while beautiful, is not quite fitting the text.

Funny, I just wanted to tell Ivan that these exact two caught my attention as the most interesting :)
But all of them are nice, maybe too sweet and nice for my liking but they do look good.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.31
Post by: tylor on February 11, 2017, 01:10:22 am
Those two are good, but. Pimpcraft is a photo, and Pedia avoids using photos.
For #039, some wounded and/or bandaged girl would fit better. BDSM demoness is more fit for something Voodoo-related.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.31
Post by: Cristao on February 11, 2017, 11:38:15 am
Well done Ivan.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.31
Post by: KBGhost on February 11, 2017, 02:10:54 pm
This is a good idea. I think some of the images in the bootypedia are really out of place, not because of nudity but some just look like they were taken straight from DeviantArt and simply don't fit.
Besides that, streamers might be able to give X-Piratez more publicity.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.31
Post by: Marza on February 13, 2017, 03:38:35 am
@ivan (or anyone else who knows!),

After seeing this and reading the linked thread, (https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,4957.html) I tried to modify some bootypedia background art myself. Problem is I have no idea what I'm doing and the result is a colourful mess!

What do I have to do to the colour palette to make it consistent with all the other bootypedia articles?

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.31
Post by: ivandogovich on February 13, 2017, 03:44:18 am
@Marza:  The best I can say, is if you follow the steps in Meridian's post here https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,4957.msg72548.html#msg72548 you should be able to get it to work.  I'm using Irfanview and Paint just as he described.  My post on the bottom of the thread includes one bit that helped me out too.

This is my template text file that I use to copy into my palettes:

Code: [Select]
0 0 0 # color 0, file index 4  (Transparent - replaces 181 230 29)

#Cut lines 5-26 and paste these values in the correct locations:
# after cutting the last entry should be on line 237

# colors 81-88, file index 85-92 (Buttons)
224 224 240
212 212 232
204 204 224
196 192 220
184 184 212
176 172 204
164 160 196
156 152 188
# end

# colors 240-249, file index 244-253 (text)
156 148 188
124 120 148
92 92 108
60 60 68
28 28 32
140 204 184
104 164 152
72 124 120
44 80 84
20 40 44
# end

# colors 252-255, file index 256-259 (cursor)
252 252 164
220 232 140
192 212 120
164 192 104
# end

# Dioxine's background color for pages:
# 24 12 36

Meridian mentioned that he was probably going to put together a short video on how to do this, also.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.31
Post by: Dioxine on February 13, 2017, 05:02:40 am
Marza, what happened to your GUI colors? The text is impossible to read.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F.31
Post by: Marza on February 13, 2017, 05:58:24 am
After staring at the provided template text for a few minutes I think I've done it properly now. Thanks again!
Title: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.44 (Update)
Post by: ivandogovich on February 14, 2017, 01:44:27 am
Added about another dozen or so images (Up to about 44 replacements now).  New package in OP.

Some Previews:

(https://i.imgur.com/N1bSPoj.png)(https://i.imgur.com/LRRmuYV.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/m7VQjvi.png)(https://i.imgur.com/QxNq6Ir.png)

Edit: redacted Builder's Hall image.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.44
Post by: tylor on February 14, 2017, 02:08:39 am
Like them. Some are actually more naked than originals:)
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.44
Post by: Dioxine on February 15, 2017, 10:05:02 am
Builder's hall, less NSFW? My ass, rather more female exploitation :)
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.44
Post by: Carfax on February 15, 2017, 12:51:21 pm
I have to agree on the builder hall picture. Its way more impicit than the original one but thats why i´ll keep it 8)
Too bad it doesn´t really fit the general tone of the rest of the pedia art, but so was the original. At least in my opinion/taste.
I also like the cave hunt art. The original had more nudity and was cohesive with the general idea in this part, but what struck me odd was the colour onslaught and her fearful face expression.

Just to make myself clear. I am only expressing my opinion and don´t what to criticize Dioxine or anyone personal. Especially with art its always personal taste.

Regards
Carfax
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.44
Post by: Dioxine on February 15, 2017, 03:49:53 pm
You're a runt, you didn't sign up for any fight, you get sent into the caves with some lousy torches and javelins... why wouldn't you be fearful?

My choices are based on a message, not if that ass is rounder than the other or if the colors are prettier (gritty is good). The message for Builder's Hall was 'Strength, Stability, Independence (from the player)'. But yeah, I'm not gonna criticize anyone's art tastes.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.66 Update
Post by: ivandogovich on February 16, 2017, 05:57:49 am
Closing in on 66/78 Pedia images done.  Adding about 22 images.  Heres a few more previews:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZrBLDpS.png)(https://i.imgur.com/4eq3Qgy.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/zBhioAI.png)(https://i.imgur.com/wFQrFXw.png)
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.66
Post by: Carfax on February 16, 2017, 11:00:29 am
Quote
You're a runt, you didn't sign up for any fight, you get sent into the caves with some lousy torches and javelins... why wouldn't you be fearful?

You make a valid point there.

Regards
Carfax
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.66
Post by: Meridian on February 16, 2017, 11:08:10 am
The white border in the "Our Abilities" image is rather visually unpleasant.
If possible white (or very light) backgrounds should be avoided.

Similar for "The most common superpower", where it causes text to be harder to read.
(And same for standard "Back to School" picture)

Smooth Captive is AWESOME tho!
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.66
Post by: Marza on February 16, 2017, 11:26:56 am
If you look closely there is also a copyright watermark covering almost half the picture in Our Abilities, which is a shame. Also the alternative picture for Krazy Hanna turns out to be a duplicate of the Tank Killer commendation picture.

Apart from that I give two thumbs up.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.66
Post by: The Think Tank on February 17, 2017, 06:22:41 am
Exceptionally excited to see this progress, we may be able to reach and tap into a whole 'nother audience with such a mod, and for that I am excited at the possibilities.
Title: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74 Update
Post by: ivandogovich on February 18, 2017, 01:08:57 am
Closing in on finishing most of the main 'Pedia.  Haven't started the Awards at all.

Thanks for all the feedback, everyone.  (Btw, Marza thanks for pointing out Hanna/Tank Killer duplication)

Preview:

(https://i.imgur.com/ImeLzfz.png)(https://i.imgur.com/OZv1UGq.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/RLBYZ5s.png)(https://i.imgur.com/T4xAty0.png)


Overall, I'm pretty happy with how the mod is turning out.  I do have some images in that I feel could be different and better, and I may work on revisions later.  As Dioxine has said in Discord, the majority of the time is searching for images that fit the concept in mind.  It can take a while.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: Dioxine on February 18, 2017, 01:18:19 pm
You just need to rename it from 'PG Mod' to 'Ivan's Pedia Pictures Mod', IMO since obviously making it PG is not your main objective :)
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: Solarius Scorch on February 18, 2017, 01:29:12 pm
You just need to rename it from 'PG Mod' to 'Ivan's Pedia Pictures Mod', IMO since obviously making it PG is not your main objective :)

No no no, it's a trap, I like it! :)
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: Meridian on February 18, 2017, 01:39:19 pm
I think he's doing a great job.
And whether it's called PG13, U16, X237 or whatever, the intent is pretty clear to anyone who played piratez for 10+ minutes.
Don't allow anyone to discourage you Ivan, we support you!
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: Dioxine on February 18, 2017, 07:58:54 pm
Never said he's doing a bad job, but the intent isn't that clear :)
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: ivandogovich on February 19, 2017, 12:14:29 am
Never said he's doing a bad job, but the intent isn't that clear :)

This is my intent, quoted from theOpening Post:
Quote
"Essentially it will try to replace a lot of the nudity in the bootypedia and some of the background images."
  (I'm generally trying to follow a YT definition of Nudity (https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/146399?hl=en) )

Aside from that, where possible, I am also trying to keep with the "pinup" style of art that goes with the sassy attitude of the base mod.

I get that you may not agree with the art I'm choosing, and I don't really expect you to like the way that this changes the edgy-ness of the mod and tames it a bit.  I also can see that its annoying to see art that you really liked and went out of your way to include in the mod getting replaced.   

Again, I have deep respect for your artistic vision as the author of the mod.  I think X-PirateZ is an absolutely amazing project, otherwise, I wouldn't be spending my time on this.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: KBGhost on February 20, 2017, 09:59:17 am
Never said he's doing a bad job, but the intent isn't that clear :)
The current bootypedia art is pretty bad, this mod tries to improve that.
One of the reasons why is because the art is inconsistent in quality.
Another reason is that some of the pictures are really weird, not even the funny type of weird.
Lastly there's the NSFW aspect (not neccessarily bad but really oversaturated in this case), it turns off a lot of people from X-piratez and I'd bet it would have been more popular if the bootypedia wasn't crowded of softcore porn.
Though, there's some really good pictures as well, but they're overshadowed by the others.

Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: Dioxine on February 20, 2017, 10:30:02 am
The current bootypedia art is pretty bad, this mod tries to improve that.
One of the reasons why is because the art is inconsistent in quality.
Another reason is that some of the pictures are really weird, not even the funny type of weird.

It is you who is funny. I don't care about the so-called quality. Weird? Well of course, weird, gritty, and dirty. This mod is done for the Horde, and in the name of camp cinema. Smooth elven ladies and polished white knight armor makes me sick, and my art choices are aimed at people who also feel sick when watching such stuff.

Also @Ivan, I'm not attacking you, no need to get so defensive, really. I'm always pro-modding but I can't take you 100% seriously with such examples of 'nudity' you're removing, as attached; you have said making this more friendly to people who dislike nudity was the goal, that's how you got my agreement to include it in the distribution package. Now, seeing it's clearly just a secondary concern for you, I have no choice but to cancel that agreement. No hard feelings, please. It's just not what we agreed upon.

EDIT: I haven't forgotten you've always been an important contributor. We can talk and come to new terms, but you have overstretched the original agreement, that's what I'm saying.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: KBGhost on February 20, 2017, 10:54:27 am
Also @Ivan, I'm not attacking you, no need to get so defensive, really. I'm always pro-modding but I can't take you 100% seriously with such examples of 'nudity' you're removing, as attached; you have said making this more friendly to people who dislike nudity was the goal, that's how you got my agreement to include it in the distribution package. Now, seeing it's clearly just a secondary concern for you, I have no choice but to cancel that agreement. No hard feelings, please. It's just not what we agreed upon.
I'm even more puzzled by this, how is it such a problem that Ivan decided to change other things besides the nudity?
Assuming that the mod can be activated and deactivated why is it such a big deal?
Seems like a knee jerk reaction.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: Solarius Scorch on February 20, 2017, 02:53:19 pm
I'm even more puzzled by this, how is it such a problem that Ivan decided to change other things besides the nudity?
Assuming that the mod can be activated and deactivated why is it such a big deal?
Seems like a knee jerk reaction.

It's not really my place to speak, since it's not my mod, Piratez is not my mod either. Also it's no secret that Sioxine is my buddy in real life and I've worked with him on various projects for at 15 years, which doesn't really put me in a favourable position to speak. But I consider Ivan a good friend too, he's a talented mod tweaker and one of the nicest people around here. So here goes.

The mod's purpose was expressly describes as:

The goal of this mod is to make the game visually a bit less NSFW.  Essentially it will try to replace a lot of the nudity in the bootypedia and some of the background images.

Dioxine was supportive of this idea from the start, or in fact neutral (I personally think the idea of being offended by pixelated cartoon breasts is just flat-out retarded and bordering on insane, so he's actually way more positive towards the idea than I am). He gave his blessing and all.

But the problem is with those other pictures. Dioxine expressly stated (at least on the Discord channel) that he's perfectly fine with a mod changing the Ufopaedia, or anything else, as everyone is free to mod anything; otherwise Piratez could never happen either. But he explained that if a mod is stated to only censor some pictures, but in fact changes some other ones into something that conveys a different message, then it's not right. And I understand why: those pictures, even if sub-par graphically, were there for a reason, and some of them were changed that Dioxine didn't like on an ideological level - mostly about being rather objectifying towards the women rather than empowering them, as the original art intended. This creates a problem that a potential player expects to play the mod as intended minus the boobs, but in fact receives something that conveys a different message, and one the original author doesn't support (duh). I'm sure Ivan did not intend it, and probably never though of it, but it still holds.

Has Dioxine overreacted? Maybe he didn't express himself well enough. But it's not about his social skills, it's about the spirit of a creative work, which is kinda justified. Calling it "a knee jerk reaction" is completely ignorant, though understandable from someone who is not a creator.

So I am inclined to agree there are two ways of mending this:

1) Change the mod name to something else, like for example "Ivan's Bootypedia Pictures". Then it would clearly state that the work is not endorsed by the original creator - basically fan fiction - and everyone is happy.

2) Leave the title as is, but stop playing with the original message.

I'm sure Dioxine would support both solutions too. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want conflict, isn't angry with Ivan or anything, they seem (I think) to be on really friendly terms too.. But these sort of things naturally happen with any creative process and must be resolved before devolving into something toxic. It's a perfectly normal process.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: KBGhost on February 20, 2017, 03:36:49 pm
It's not really my place to speak, since it's not my mod, Piratez is not my mod either. Also it's no secret that Sioxine is my buddy in real life and I've worked with him on various projects for at 15 years, which doesn't really put me in a favourable position to speak. But I consider Ivan a good friend too, he's a talented mod tweaker and one of the nicest people around here. So here goes.

The mod's purpose was expressly describes as:

Dioxine was supportive of this idea from the start, or in fact neutral (I personally think the idea of being offended by pixelated cartoon breasts is just flat-out retarded and bordering on insane, so he's actually way more positive towards the idea than I am). He gave his blessing and all.

But the problem is with those other pictures. Dioxine expressly stated (at least on the Discord channel) that he's perfectly fine with a mod changing the Ufopaedia, or anything else, as everyone is free to mod anything; otherwise Piratez could never happen either. But he explained that if a mod is stated to only censor some pictures, but in fact changes some other ones into something that conveys a different message, then it's not right. And I understand why: those pictures, even if sub-par graphically, were there for a reason, and some of them were changed that Dioxine didn't like on an ideological level - mostly about being rather objectifying towards the women rather than empowering them, as the original art intended. This creates a problem that a potential player expects to play the mod as intended minus the boobs, but in fact receives something that conveys a different message, and one the original author doesn't support (duh). I'm sure Ivan did not intend it, and probably never though of it, but it still holds.

Has Dioxine overreacted? Maybe he didn't express himself well enough. But it's not about his social skills, it's about the spirit of a creative work, which is kinda justified. Calling it "a knee jerk reaction" is completely ignorant, though understandable from someone who is not a creator.

So I am inclined to agree there are two ways of mending this:

1) Change the mod name to something else, like for example "Ivan's Bootypedia Pictures". Then it would clearly state that the work is not endorsed by the original creator - basically fan fiction - and everyone is happy.

2) Leave the title as is, but stop playing with the original message.

I'm sure Dioxine would support both solutions too. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want conflict, isn't angry with Ivan or anything, they seem (I think) to be on really friendly terms too.. But these sort of things naturally happen with any creative process and must be resolved before devolving into something toxic. It's a perfectly normal process.
Thanks for the clarification.
What I meant with knee jerk reaction is that this situation could've been resolved pretty quickly by changing the name of the mod like you said.
Though, I still don't see the ideological differences. Isn't Dioxine's version also objectifying women?
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: Dioxine on February 20, 2017, 03:39:41 pm
@KGBGhost: I suggest reading post you answer to before answering them. Changing name was the first thing I suggested, since it's the only problem I have with this. Use glasses if needed. Unless your intent was flamebaiting, then you've almost succeeded by now.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: KBGhost on February 20, 2017, 03:47:35 pm
@KGBGhost: I suggest reading post you answer to before answering them. Changing name was the first thing I suggested, since it's the only problem I have with this. Use glasses if needed. Unless your intent was flamebaiting, then you've almost succeeded by now.
That's not what I meant, you could've just renamed it to Ivan's Bootypedia Pictures for the time being yourself. It doesn't have to be a bureaucracy you know.
I really doubt Ivan would be hurt by that and you could have personally talked to Ivan without making a big deal about it in the thread.
The reason you see it as flamebaiting is because you need to keep your temper in check when it comes to criticism, seriously it's not worth it getting an aneurysm over xcom mods.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: ivandogovich on February 20, 2017, 04:04:40 pm
Good discussion, and I see your point, Dioxine. 

I think when all is said and done, I'll revert the mod to just deal with the nudity aspect, (silly as that is) and step back from the 3 substitutions for:

Quote
Note:  In my work, I have also found some images, while not NSFW, visually discordant with the mod, and I have taken the liberty to replace some of those with alternates as well.
Alternates:
3 (Beastmen, Builder's Hall, & Krazy Hanna)

These do take much more artistic license.  I'll either recommend these to Roxis' alt bootypedia mod or release another minor one, myself.  It will make things much clearer in regards to the purpose of this mod.

Thanks
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: Solarius Scorch on February 20, 2017, 05:22:22 pm
These do take much more artistic license.  I'll either recommend these to Roxis' alt bootypedia mod or release another minor one, myself.  It will make things much clearer in regards to the purpose of this mod.

That sounds like a good idea. Why make two mods if you can join forces?
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: The Burning Yak on February 21, 2017, 06:29:02 am
Quote
I think when all is said and done, I'll revert the mod to just deal with the nudity aspect, (silly as that is)

I think that's a great plan. I've got a number of friends I'd love to recommend this too that would be uncomfortable with the nudity aspect. I think opening up the brilliance of Dioxine's mod to a larger audience is perfect.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: KBGhost on February 21, 2017, 11:44:49 am
Good discussion, and I see your point, Dioxine. 

I think when all is said and done, I'll revert the mod to just deal with the nudity aspect, (silly as that is) and step back from the 3 substitutions for:

These do take much more artistic license.  I'll either recommend these to Roxis' alt bootypedia mod or release another minor one, myself.  It will make things much clearer in regards to the purpose of this mod.

Thanks
Good idea, I'm looking forward to your mods.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.81
Post by: ivandogovich on February 24, 2017, 01:36:07 am
Update: 81 images completed now.  Almost done with the main 'pedia entries, Awards/Commendations will come next.


(https://i.imgur.com/JR23cQa.png)(https://i.imgur.com/t4yXNZN.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/SaCyRpw.png)(https://i.imgur.com/6ZKAECh.png)

With this release I have deprecated the images that were strictly to make things prettier (Krazy Hanna, Builder's Hall, and Beastmen).  This is to ensure that this mod stays to one intent only.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.81
Post by: Roxis231 on February 24, 2017, 05:06:24 am
I've been looking at the background Images you use.

I am sure you could get sharper Images if you changed the pictures to greyscale before re-palleting them as I sugested in my PM.

Might be of some help.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.81
Post by: ivandogovich on February 24, 2017, 03:29:05 pm
Yeah, I've realized Backgrounds take a lot of tweaking.  I've got some good ideas for different bgs, but I've sort of set them aside for last, as I feel they will take the most time.  Thanks a ton for your tips!  Its made a huge difference!
Title: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.95
Post by: ivandogovich on March 03, 2017, 12:29:20 am
Update: 95 images complete.  With this release, all the main 'pedia images have alternates.  There are a few that I would like to find something better for, but those are just a handful, and what I have will work for now.

I've started work on the Commendations, and have eleven of those ready.  I'll keep working on these, then finish the last few background images.  Then as time allows look for more perfect replacements for those I'm not completely happy with.

Preview:
(https://i.imgur.com/ThDKMVX.png)(https://i.imgur.com/z6VHQKc.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/o9bGyD1.png)(https://i.imgur.com/YOwDNEF.png)

(and yeah, I've fixed the "{Newline" on the diplomacy image)
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.95
Post by: KBGhost on March 04, 2017, 12:23:11 pm
Post deleted - Dioxine

Pasting a huge post of someone else and adding just a single word of comment is just too rude to be tolerated even here.


It might be a better idea to make a list of rules and perhaps sticky it before deleting posts for arbitary reasons such as "your compliment wasn't long enough" Dioxine.
So I'll rephrase it: "Good to see more progress, I like the choice of the diplomacy picture" instead of "Nice!"
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F3.104
Post by: ivandogovich on March 18, 2017, 12:49:31 am
Got time to work up a few more images and tackle a few of the new images in 99f3.

Here's a few previews:

(http://i.imgur.com/k9dIPLY.png)(http://i.imgur.com/tN1ovUx.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/JKUzvl9.png)(http://i.imgur.com/VqdMhRE.png)

Just a few more 'pedia images, and a few more awards, and this will be ready for 1.0 release  (looks like 104/115 complete).  I'll still probably look for replacements for some of the images that are already done but leave me a bit dissatisfied.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F3.104
Post by: Marza on July 18, 2017, 03:40:46 am
Recently encountered a crash when upgrading from 0.99G2 to 0.99G4

Getting an 'invalid node' error with the pedia.rul file. I've been poking around with that file to try and diagnose the problem, but I don't really know what I'm looking for. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F3.104
Post by: Dyne on July 18, 2017, 07:45:29 am
Great choice of pics.
Not a problem for me with any NSFW, but sometimes less boobs is better.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F3.104
Post by: The Reaver of Darkness on July 18, 2017, 08:33:17 am
I don't give a damn about being PG-13, but these are some rather gorgeous images. I particularly like the Chemical Weapons one.
(https://i.imgur.com/S8z2STm.png)
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F1.74
Post by: Mechanique on July 18, 2017, 10:39:38 am
I think that's a great plan. I've got a number of friends I'd love to recommend this too that would be uncomfortable with the nudity aspect. I think opening up the brilliance of Dioxine's mod to a larger audience is perfect.

Reminds me of that "Trump" speech from South Park.
Slavery, murdering for money, prostitution, and the whole adult theme is fine, but light nudity? NOOOO that's too much
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F3.104
Post by: BBHood217 on July 18, 2017, 12:51:18 pm
The last update was in April.  Is this still being worked on?

If so, has the Mansion Invasions image been replaced yet?  If not, I might have a suggestion for that one.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F3.104
Post by: ivandogovich on July 18, 2017, 04:50:51 pm
Thanks for the interest folks. 

Last update was 99F3.  So this mod is seriously out of date.  Yes, Dioxine has added bunch more content (Mansion Mission brief, etc) that this mod should cover. 

Unfortunately, It isn't currently being actively worked on, no.  I've been on a hiatus from playing PirateZ due to some of life's craziness.  I can't guarantee when I might pick this mod up again.   Therefore, @Marza I apologize that I can't trouble shoot whatever broke for you... (I'd guess Dioxine changed some of the strings for the articles).  If anybody can troubleshoot and post a fix, I'll happily update the files. 
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F3.104
Post by: Bacon_Hero on July 18, 2017, 07:23:29 pm
@Marza

What's the exact error message? I think we can figure it out once we have that.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F3.104
Post by: Marza on July 18, 2017, 08:32:19 pm
I've attached a screenshot of the error message. I'll spend an hour or so looking around for a broken string by eye tonight. If I find anything I'll either edit this post or add a new one.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F3.104
Post by: greattuna on July 18, 2017, 08:38:02 pm
Replacing STR_RAIDER_AUTOPSY with STR_RAIDER_CORPSE fixed the problem for me.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F3.104
Post by: Marza on July 18, 2017, 09:29:23 pm
Yup, a bunch of strings changed from STR_*_AUTOPSY to STR_*_CORPSE between version G2 and G4. The fix greattuna posted works.

@greattuna How did you spot that so fast?
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99F3.104
Post by: greattuna on July 18, 2017, 09:49:06 pm
Well, I used fancy notepad++, and I was looking for strings in both files at the same time, and I did it a few hours ago and only now got to post it.
Title: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99G4.104 (Bug Fix)
Post by: ivandogovich on July 18, 2017, 10:15:21 pm
Thanks for the Fix!  I have updated the mod in the link on the OP.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99G4.104 (BugFix)
Post by: Poulpiche on January 02, 2019, 03:33:26 pm
hi,

would it planned to update this Mod to be compatible with the latest version of the game?

thanks in advance
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99G4.104 (BugFix)
Post by: ivandogovich on January 04, 2019, 03:21:04 pm
hi,

would it planned to update this Mod to be compatible with the latest version of the game?

thanks in advance

Unfortunately I have no plans or desire to update this mod.  The amount of effort involve is intense, and keeping up with core updates is overwhelming.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99G4.104 (BugFix)
Post by: BBHood217 on January 05, 2019, 12:27:24 am
Not to mention that some of the explicit stuff is actually part of the gameplay and lore; running around buck naked does impact your gal's combat stats, and covering up the belters would ruin the entire point of them as a few examples.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99G4.104 (BugFix)
Post by: The Reaver of Darkness on January 06, 2019, 02:39:46 pm
Not to mention that some of the explicit stuff is actually part of the gameplay and lore; running around buck naked does impact your gal's combat stats, and covering up the belters would ruin the entire point of them as a few examples.

I have to agree here.

Reminds me of that "Trump" speech from South Park.
Slavery, murdering for money, prostitution, and the whole adult theme is fine, but light nudity? NOOOO that's too much
The game has arson, murder, and jaywalking. But we've got to scrub that jaywalking out so that it can be accessible to a wider audience. I think it would damage the lore less to scrub out the arson.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99G4.104 (BugFix)
Post by: Marza on January 07, 2019, 03:19:50 pm
hi,

would it planned to update this Mod to be compatible with the latest version of the game?

thanks in advance

Fortunately, the mod available in the OP appears to be compatible with the current version of Piratez (J10), it just hasn't been updated with anything new.
Title: Re: [MOD] PG13 Version (Less NSFW) 99G4.104 (BugFix)
Post by: Poulpiche on January 09, 2019, 01:00:37 pm
Not to mention that some of the explicit stuff is actually part of the gameplay and lore; running around buck naked does impact your gal's combat stats, and covering up the belters would ruin the entire point of them as a few examples.

I understand.

Too bad, I don't have a particular problem with nudity or something similar, it's especially because I really like a lot and prefer the pictures used in this mod,

thanks to have done it

Fortunately, the mod available in the OP appears to be compatible with the current version of Piratez (J10), it just hasn't been updated with anything new.

well, not exactly. after a while, this error message appears :

(https://i.ibb.co/cQPB8gT/image.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

EDIT: I have converted the pictures in 8 bits format. it's ugly, but the problem seems to be fixed