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Title: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia (Discussion)
Post by: Roxis231 on January 22, 2017, 09:55:58 am
I've often looked at one of the pictures/images Dioxine uses for these and thought "Is there a Better Image for this Entry"

A while back, when Meredian introduced Custom pallets for the Pedia, I decided to make some for my copy for this mod.

While looking for images for my Siren Mod (Currently WIP), I found copies of some of the images Dioxine uses, and made better/custom pallet versions for myself.

Just thought I'd upload it to see if anyone is interested.

Dioxine - If you want to use my versions, feel free, just credit my work as usual.

Can't post all the images so I've just posted some - Will post the rest below.

Edit 04/02/17 : I Have Replaced the zip with a total version (all 3 mods in one Zip) Now at V1.1
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: Roxis231 on January 22, 2017, 09:57:13 am
Here's the rest.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: Solarius Scorch on January 22, 2017, 12:26:13 pm
Not bad, not bad...

As for the changed images (not just improved quality), I'm mostly neutral to the proposed changes, except the Provost: I really like the original picture way more. The new one doesn't convey her personality and identity at all, while the old one does it perfectly.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: karadoc on January 22, 2017, 02:56:35 pm
The images look alright, but I personally find it off-putting that you called your "high quality" rather than something neutral like "modified", or "proposed", or "new", or "mine", or "Roxis231".

Here are two criticisms.: Although your version for the first pictures seem to have more detail, I prefer the higher contrast of the originals. Your replacement for the synthmuscle picture doesn't look like synthetic muscles.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: Meridian on January 22, 2017, 02:57:31 pm
The new one doesn't convey her personality and identity at all, while the old one does it perfectly.

So what is her personality?
I never learned that...
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: Solarius Scorch on January 22, 2017, 04:58:02 pm
So what is her personality?
I never learned that...

Exactly as the image shows. ;)
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: ivandogovich on January 22, 2017, 06:15:07 pm
Great work, Roxis!  I've been wanting to do this with the custom palettes for quite a while!  Great Start!  I'm definitely employing these!
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: Roxis231 on January 22, 2017, 06:38:48 pm
The images look alright, but I personally find it off-putting that you called your "high quality" rather than something neutral like "modified", or "proposed", or "new", or "mine", or "Roxis231".

Although your version for the first pictures seem to have more detail, I prefer the higher contrast of the originals.

Hmm  - Might change it to 'Improved' or 'Enhanced' then. (More likely 'Improved')

Also you don't have to use this if you don't like it.

except the Provost: I really like the original picture way more. The new one doesn't convey her personality and identity at all, while the old one does it perfectly.

So what is her personality?
I never learned that...

My thoughts on the Original was "F*** It looks like a Middle-aged Paris Hilton, trying (and failing) to do a nude sceen, without reading the script while wearing NO makeup"

Yes I really don't like the old picture (or Paris Hilton) hence why I have replaced it.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: Dioxine on January 22, 2017, 07:37:19 pm
Well to me it looks more like a replacement of (more or less) fitting pictures with random pinups, with the exception of Cybernetic Interface which I might adapt or seek a better one.

Not everything is supposed to look pretty.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: Solarius Scorch on January 22, 2017, 07:40:18 pm
My thoughts on the Original was "F*** It looks like a Middle-aged Paris Hilton, trying (and failing) to do a nude sceen, without reading the script while wearing NO makeup"

Yeah, it's brilliant.

Really, do all women need to look like supermodels in chainmail bikini?  >:(
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: Meridian on January 22, 2017, 07:58:11 pm
Exactly as the image shows. ;)

Image cannot show personality.
Personality is way more complex than what a single picture can possibly illustrate.

Btw. I agree with Roxis and will repeat myself from few months ago... that picture is, by far, the ugliest picture in this mod.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: Roxis231 on January 22, 2017, 08:00:26 pm
Well to me it looks more like a replacement of (more or less) fitting pictures with random pinups, with the exception of Cybernetic Interface which I might adapt or seek a better one.

Not everything is supposed to look pretty.

I made this JUST for me - I just posted it incase anyone wanted it.

I might split this into upgrade and replacements if enough people ask though.

Really, do all women need to look like supermodels in chainmail bikini?  >:(

No, they don't have to - I just don't like Paris Hilton.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: Solarius Scorch on January 22, 2017, 08:03:02 pm
No, they don't have to - I just don't like Paris Hilton.

Well, this reasoning I can understand. :)
(Though I don't even really know how Paris Hilton looks like, so I'm not commenting.)

Image cannot show personality.
Personality is way more complex than what a single picture can possibly illustrate.

Sigh... Do you really want me to quote dictionaries? Question my wording?

OK, personality perhaps wasn't the best word. What else should I use... Expressive? Conductive? Inspiring? I'm sure it doesn't really need to be explained, we are all human beings here.

Btw. I agree with Roxis and will repeat myself from few months ago... that picture is, by far, the ugliest picture in this mod.

And it's one of my favourites, it's interesting, non-trivial, not another bimbo. It has a message and I think it makes here attractive.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: Roxis231 on January 22, 2017, 08:09:09 pm
Image cannot show personality.
Personality is way more complex than what a single picture can possibly illustrate.

And it's one of my favourites, it's interesting, non-trivial, not another bimbo. It has a message and I think it makes here attractive.

If Anyone thinks they have a better Image, post it and let's have a discussion.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: Solarius Scorch on January 22, 2017, 08:10:22 pm
Perhaps I should've mentioned that otherwise I really like your pics, they're nice and well-made. I just don't want that particular one replaced.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia (Discussion)
Post by: Roxis231 on January 22, 2017, 08:19:09 pm
Perhaps I should've mentioned that otherwise I really like your pics, they're nice and well-made. I just don't want that particular one replaced.

Should be easy to change that in the ruleset, just delete the folowing.

From Ufopedia Section

Code: [Select]
  - id: STR_ACADEMY_COM_KNOWHOW
    image_id: BIG_ACADEMY_SECRET_CPAL

From extraSprites

Code: [Select]
  - type: BIG_ACADEMY_SECRET_CPAL
    singleImage: true
    width: 320
    height: 200
    files:
      0: pedia/SEC_SCI_COM_Cus.gif

That should work.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia (Discussion)
Post by: Solarius Scorch on January 22, 2017, 08:20:12 pm
Yeah, thanks. But I was just saying it in general, not that I had any problems. :)
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia (Discussion)
Post by: Roxis231 on January 23, 2017, 02:33:50 am
Made a descision - I have split the mod.

Improved Backgrounds - switches most of the 16 colour backgrounds with better quality / Less pixilated versions

Improved Pedia - switches several Bootypedia Images with Custom Pallet Versions of the same image.

Changed Pedia - Replaces Several Bootypedia Images that I think don't work with images I think do.

If you are useing the one from the first post - please delete it and use these three. see edit.

Edit 04/02/17 : I Have replaced the zip in the first post with a updated version (all 3 mods in one Zip) Now at V1.1
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia (Discussion)
Post by: Roxis231 on January 23, 2017, 03:12:22 am
Um... Can anyone help with this... I'm trying to use a reverse-image search to find the original of this image

(https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5238.0;attach=25872;image)

But all I get is no result or this from Google

(https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5238.0;attach=25874;image)

Honestly... A TREE???
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia
Post by: tylor on January 23, 2017, 03:50:53 am
So what is her personality?
I never learned that...
My guess is this picture shows personality of a very mature, smart and authoritative woman, which pays not much attentions to prettiness, but a lot to physical and mental fitness, showing her after she was carved out of her physical and emotional armor and made questioning her life choices and priorities.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia (Discussion)
Post by: Roxis231 on February 03, 2017, 11:41:23 pm
Here's an update - I've put a Zip file contaning all 3 mods is in the first post

Pictures of the new changes are below.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia (Discussion)
Post by: legionof1 on February 04, 2017, 04:51:51 am
Normally I'm a fan of improved quality of graphics but i feel the builder and minigun pics actually look worse despite the higher quality. They look dull and washed out.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia (Discussion)
Post by: Roxis231 on February 04, 2017, 07:20:33 am
Ironicaly they are actually closer to the original colours.

I will work on them to see if I can get something better.
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia (Discussion)
Post by: legionof1 on February 04, 2017, 08:20:32 am
I suppose you are right about that. But at least to me the higher definition something is the more it needs brighter tones to appear "good" .
Title: Re: Repacement Images for Backgrounds/Bootypedia (Discussion)
Post by: Dioxine on February 04, 2017, 08:57:03 am
My goal has never been to be close to original images. But everyone has different tastes.