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OpenXcom => Playthroughs => Topic started by: Countdown on November 28, 2016, 08:03:17 am

Title: Is my TFTD campaign a lost cause?
Post by: Countdown on November 28, 2016, 08:03:17 am
So I started this TFTD campaign (Superhuman difficulty, no save scumming) a while back and would like to finish it rather than start over, but I'm wondering at this point my current campaign is a lost cause. Basically I'm stuck.

This was my first go at TFTD and I didn't want to spoil it by knowing the research tree, so I didn't know what to prioritize. Later on I peeked at the tree and realized I'm screwed. I lost my first base (https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,3352.msg65814.html#msg65814) earlier in the game which had my Deep One corpses (you need those to progress in research). My second (and now only) base has never had a terror mission with Deep Ones. I'm in October now and I actually never see Gillmen anymore. It's all Lobstermen (F them to hell!!!) and Tasoths, sometimes Aquatoids.

Without armor I'm getting my ass kicked (https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,3352.msg66172.html#msg66172) almost every mission, haven't beat an Artifact mission, haven't taken down an alien base and have been losing the last few terror missions too. The fact that I haven't lost the game yet shows how hard it is to lose. I had over negative 1000 for August, but managed to just survive September with -104 (without those 400 bonus points at the end of the month it was Game Over).

So will I ever see Deep Ones again somewhere so I can do the research to get aqua plastics, armor and all that other stuff I need to actually beat the game? They will only show up on a Gillman terror mission, right?


I beat XCOM on Superhuman pretty comfortably, but TFTD has been a huge struggle since the start (my death toll is at 187 and climbing). I miss having effective auto fire weapons.  :-\
Title: Re: Is my TFTD campaign a lost cause?
Post by: Starving Poet on November 28, 2016, 05:18:43 pm
You will see deep ones again - but at this point in the game it's more about how the RNG plays out.   In my last TFTD LP - I was doing a full research run and probably went 10 months without seeing any gillmen, but right before I went to T'Leth I got one more gillman Terror mission.

Deep ones will only appear on land, outside of T'Leth, in Gillmen missions, and they might show up in Mixed Crew missions.
Title: Re: Is my TFTD campaign a lost cause?
Post by: Countdown on December 01, 2016, 10:02:37 am
Thanks for the info, going to keep trudging on and see what happens. Although I'm not very optimistic as I just finished October with -1400 points! :(

I was surprised the score was getting so negative. In September I had a passable score despite having a squad wipe on an Artifact mission, a squad wipe on a regular crashed sub mission, and one small sub crash victory. But I guess I detected and shot down a fair number of alien subs even if I didn't do the ground missions because they were Lobstermen.

Then October I (shockingly) beat my terror mission and one other small sub crash, but that was it. I hardly detected any alien subs and the ones I did got away before I could shoot them down. So I assume I lost a ton of points just because the aliens were successful with their missions since I wasn't shooting anything down.

Plus they have at least 5 colonies on the planet now so that's not helping my score either. :P