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Modding => Released Mods => XPiratez => Topic started by: Asheram on August 29, 2016, 12:10:56 pm

Title: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Asheram on August 29, 2016, 12:10:56 pm
It's all there in the title.
I love this Mod and would love to livestream it for others enjoyment, but all the bared tits are toeing plenty of Terms of Service.
Any possibility we'll be able to see a "reversed" nude mod in the future, covering up some of the artwork? (Even though it's a darn shame)
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on August 29, 2016, 12:15:02 pm
Unlikely. What would be the point of the mod?

Also, what kind of service is bothered by pixel nipples? Whoever they are, screw them. (Even YT doesn't mind.)
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Asheram on August 29, 2016, 12:22:27 pm
Unlikely. What would be the point of the mod?

Also, what kind of service is bothered by pixel nipples? Whoever they are, screw them. (Even YT doesn't mind.)

Twitch can have their heads up their arses sometimes and I doubt a lot of streamers want to take a chance with that.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on August 29, 2016, 12:52:27 pm
Twitch can have their heads up their arses sometimes and I doubt a lot of streamers want to take a chance with that.

There are Twitch LPs of Piratez. Gaudium has one, for example.
And even if this wasn't true, who'd care about some unreasonable portal? Much less tweak a product to satisfy them? That would be below humiliating, I can't see Dioxine doing something like this.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: karadoc on August 29, 2016, 02:03:28 pm
I personally don't mind all the nudity and such, but I can say that I do feel slightly uncomfortable playing the game when someone else is watching.

In the Bootypedia, most images are fitting and in good taste, and I think bit of incidental nudity is good. But some of the pictures probably do take it a bit far. For example, the Mind-machine Interface image is apparently a girl masturbating. Although I'm ok with that showing up in the game for me, it does make me reluctant to recommend the game to my family and some of my friends. When someone is watching me play, I wonder what people think of the game and of me if I happen to be looking at a picture of a girl about to get fucked by a monster - such as in the Demonic Rituals picture, or "#022".

Stuff like the nurse outfit and the bikinis can make it seem like the girls are just dressing up for male amusement. And the slave outfit might make a casual observer wonder why our girls are naked...

I'm not looking for a PG version; but I would suggest showing a bit of restraint with the NSFW content. (And I don't mean the kind of restraint in the Ravager picture.) I wouldn't ask for any of that stuff to be removed; but I do think that there is a balance to maintain. That balance is different for different people, of course.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Meridian on August 29, 2016, 02:14:31 pm
Yeah, the Mind-machine interface was a little bit over the top; I felt embarrassment when the picture popped up during recording.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on August 29, 2016, 02:25:59 pm
Well, yeah, that's another point. :)
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Dioxine on August 29, 2016, 03:11:52 pm
Any possibility we'll be able to see a "reversed" nude mod in the future, covering up some of the artwork? (Even though it's a darn shame)

Don't let me stop you! I will even include the mod in the official distro, but a fair warning, it'll require an enormous work, or savage cutting of content, or some combination thereof.

For example, the Mind-machine Interface image is apparently a girl masturbating.

Ummm... what? I only see a naked girl using some sort of controls, reminding a little UFO controls with the floating globes. The problem is I haven't found a better picture with such depiction of fancy machinery. But I agree it's very suggestive.

When someone is watching me play, I wonder what people think of the game and of me if I happen to be looking at a picture of a girl about to get fucked by a monster - such as in the Demonic Rituals picture, or "#022".

#022 might be just over the top, agreed - while Demonic Rituals are just weird, #022 does indeed look like rape. I will probably replace it, however, it's gated behind Pillow Book, which should be red warning light, and Demonic Rituals are... well, what the hell did you expect, as well?

Stuff like the nurse outfit and the bikinis can make it seem like the girls are just dressing up for male amusement.

That can be applied to any sort of clothing or lack thereof, as long as any females are involved. An vice versa, you don't need to aim for male attention to consider wearing skimpy clothing.

And the slave outfit might make a casual observer wonder why our girls are naked...

It's available in the naughty mod only.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Boltgun on August 29, 2016, 07:03:38 pm
Yes, a mod that replaces the most suggestive pedia picture would help those who wish to stream on Twitch. A sort of reverse naughty mod, so we have the option to go 18+ or... I dunno. 16?

It'll also help those who use Youtube for money because if you activate the age limit you get nothing, not a cent.

Cultures that confuse nudity with sex puzzle me.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: LexThorn on August 29, 2016, 08:34:18 pm
Yes, a mod that replaces the most suggestive pedia picture would help those who wish to stream on Twitch. A sort of reverse naughty mod, so we have the option to go 18+ or... I dunno. 16?

It'll also help those who use Youtube for money because if you activate the age limit you get nothing, not a cent.

Cultures that confuse nudity with sex puzzle me.

May the enthusiasts make dat mod! And if there is no enthusiasts... bad luck i guess. So do not bother Dioxine with that.  It is not important. Leave problems of twicherasts and youtuberasts to them.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Dioxine on August 29, 2016, 09:17:53 pm
No worries, I'm not bothered. I have no slightiest intention of working on it.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: clownagent on August 29, 2016, 10:01:39 pm

Ummm... what? I only see a naked girl using some sort of controls, reminding a little UFO controls with the floating globes. The problem is I haven't found a better picture with such depiction of fancy machinery. But I agree it's very suggestive.


Maybe you want to use one of the attached images?

edit: source:
https://omen2501.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=0
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Roxis231 on August 30, 2016, 12:27:03 am
Here's the better one (IMO) quickly resized and re-paleted with PaintShop Pro 7.

(https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4878.0;attach=23669)

I think it works.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: clownagent on August 30, 2016, 12:58:46 am
Here's the better one (IMO) quickly resized and re-paleted with PaintShop Pro 7.

(https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4878.0;attach=23669)

I think it works.

I would probably lighten it up a bit more.

Also attached two "tame and boring" demon themed images
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Dioxine on August 30, 2016, 01:05:55 am
Ouch. Yuck. Clownagent, I'm not putting these ugly things in my mod :) As for the green picture - it's fine, but it looks like Cybernetic, not MM Interface. I actually was considering it long ago for Cybernetic interface, but in the end choose the current one. MM needs crystals, space and swag, most importantly, swag.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Boltgun on August 30, 2016, 10:29:29 am
May the enthusiasts make dat mod! And if there is no enthusiasts... bad luck i guess. So do not bother Dioxine with that.  It is not important. Leave problems of twicherasts and youtuberasts to them.

While I recognize the importance of such mod, I am playing with the naughty mod and I am proud of it.

This piss me off that a girl getting eaten by zombies would be more acceptable.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on August 30, 2016, 12:44:03 pm
While I recognize the importance of such mod, I am playing with the naughty mod and I am proud of it.

This piss me off that a girl getting eaten by zombies would be more acceptable.

*shrug* It's the classic US puritanism vs. Eurasian naturalism that's plaguing every international website ever.
While I consider said puritanism annoying and, let me say it out loud, disturbing, there's not much that can be done except not getting confused by it.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: nrafield on August 30, 2016, 06:08:41 pm
Maaan, I don't wanna see them outright replaced to conform to some BS standards.  I haven't even seen these images yet!
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Boltgun on August 30, 2016, 06:26:56 pm
*shrug* It's the classic US puritanism vs. Eurasian naturalism that's plaguing every international website ever.
While I consider said puritanism annoying and, let me say it out loud, disturbing, there's not much that can be done except not getting confused by it.

You got a point and anyone who wish to make the PG Piratez is right to do so. The main job would be:
* List all the pictures to be replace and their pedia/armor/commendation entry.
* Find pictures, and make a list of artists for credits.

As a matter of fact I always wondered what is Dioxine stance of us adding mods over Piratez.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Dioxine on August 30, 2016, 06:43:46 pm
I don't mind it at all, as long as they're separate mods. Some of these mods can find their way to my release packages, but I reserve that choice for myself (I only add stuff that doesn't ruin the experience as I see it). But if choose not to, it only means that my stance is neutral.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on August 30, 2016, 07:06:29 pm
Maaan, I don't wanna see them outright replaced to conform to some BS standards.  I haven't even seen these images yet!

Fear not, my fellow pervert! We will always prevail, for we are legion!

(https://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae160/WACKYMACROZ/PervertNation.png)
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Dioxine on August 30, 2016, 07:33:15 pm
Have no fear, only my standards count in the end. I only consider replacing pictures that either
a) I was reluctant to put up in the first place, but didn't find a better one before (this will happen with #22)
b) I was content with, but found or was shown a clearly superior one (that happened to Tools&Blades, and will happen to Slayer award, although I plan to recycle Slayer picture into some harder to get commendation).
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: gyrobot on December 21, 2016, 08:08:49 am
So where did you get the Mind Machine Interface artwork from, sorry to raise this topic from the dead.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Dioxine on December 21, 2016, 10:10:54 am
Internet.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: gyrobot on December 21, 2016, 06:10:03 pm
I know that, but I wanted to ask specifically which artist drew the art for the Mind Machine Interface since the google image search yielded nothing.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Dioxine on December 21, 2016, 06:51:29 pm
I told you all I know. I keep a huge database of pictures DL'ed throughout most of my life, and they aren't tagged.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: stepbystep on December 21, 2016, 07:32:23 pm
If anyone is interested I'm building a XPiratez themed pinterest board that I believe would suit such a project (referring to the PG version) as the skimpiest girl in the bunch is in a bikini.
They are all pretty badass pictures imho, but of course your mileage may vary. I think some of them also happen to be the source of some pictures already present in the mod.

Theese are some examples from the board (which is not public):

https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781279966894/ (https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781279966894/)
https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781280002004/ (https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781280002004/)
https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781279929003/ (https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781279929003/)
https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781279954751/ (https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781279954751/)
https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781279921650/ (https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781279921650/)
https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781279799546/ (https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781279799546/)
https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781279959989/ (https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781279959989/)
https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781279944104/ (https://it.pinterest.com/pin/74942781279944104/)

Send me a pm if you want to be invited to the board.

edit:
It currently has 485 pins in it, although a couple might be duplicates.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on December 21, 2016, 08:44:55 pm
Why publish the links if it's not public and can't be seen? :P
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Dioxine on December 21, 2016, 09:24:58 pm
This suspiciously looks like spam to me.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: CaptainCorkscrew on December 22, 2016, 01:46:43 am
What's a pinterest? Interest in pints? Count me in!
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: stepbystep on December 22, 2016, 03:54:22 pm
Why publish the links if it's not public and can't be seen? :P

Lol, I thought that since they're all repins (namely saved from other, public, boards) the individual links would have been public. Sorry about that.

This looks suspiciously like spam to me.

I assure you Dioxine that, even if in a rather clumsy way, I was just trying to help. You might not want any, but the original poster asked specifically for graphic material sources so:
I went ahead and grabbed the original links of some of the pictures in the aforementioned board:

An art piece by malaysian artist Ng Fhze Yang (that I think I already seen in xPiratez)
https://coolvibe.com/2014/sci-fi-art-gun-slinger/

An art piece inspired by "The Last of Us":
https://capsiongman81.cgsociety.org/art/photoshop-hunters-last-us-1171779

A piece by deviantart.com user OmeN2501:
https://omen2501.deviantart.com/art/Enforcer-155944705

A Warhammer 40K inspired piece by russian artist Tarakanovich:
https://tarakanovich.deviantart.com/art/Warhammer-40k-Metalboobs-478923896?q=gallery:Tarakanovich/45192642&qo=5

A Tomb Raider inspired piece from 9gag (couldn't find author's name):
https://9gag.com/gag/5971285


So gyrobot, you can look for pictures in art specific websites like deviantart, cgsociety, artstation or more general "aggregators", like pinterest, which is not the only one btw.
Title: Re: Any plans on a more PG version?
Post by: Dioxine on December 22, 2016, 03:56:59 pm
Now that's better :)