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Modding => Work In Progress => Topic started by: kikimoristan on March 07, 2015, 04:28:09 am
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so i been working on this new alien sprite whole day finally works now. doesn't have proper ruleset floorb or bigobs yet . or sounds.
the alien is called ant man
is gonna be the ufo defense version of lobsterman but a bit different making sense of my other melee mod. they gonna come just before mutons and gonna stay until the end
they have hands and animation for holding stuff but in the game they mostly gonna use this built in special attack im gonna make for them and they will have some alien grenades and a mind probe at times and rarely pistols. the special attack is an LOS limited range attack of sorts that can also hit melee stun damage. kinda like a combo gun ranged/melee. the ranged component is a psi attack buletless instant travel with a type of special hit animation. is not real psi psi attack but is meant to look like one.
oh btw thy have 4 hands 2 for weapons and 2 for melee attack.
so is psi wielding, psi/melee attack mostly weaponless tough skin alien.
or if you got any ideas what do you think i should do with them?
(btw ignore muton commander there i used a muton to modify it into this and i was messing around with that hahaha)
(https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3435.0;attach=13766;image)
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Nice :)
I like the palette and the general look of this alien. The only problem I see is that the upper and lower arms both seem to grow from the same place, which doesn't look convincing. Do you thing you could rearrange them, or even (gasp) remove the smaller upper ones?
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thanks :)
i can remove them but i kind wanted a thri-kreen looking creature has 4 arms :) i'm gonna re-arange them a bit to make them higher see if that works :-)
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fixed it up a bit more but there are a few other issues
(https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3435.0;attach=13768;image)
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;p
made a tentative ufopaedia :)
(https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3435.0;attach=13770;image)
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Hey, I really dig it!
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thank you.
I doesn't fit too well with ufo style of ufopedia. Im gonna use it for now until I do another more traditional one.
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OMG! Klackons are coming!
It's always nice to see something completely new on this forum, good work!
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Looks nice, kudos to you.
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Looks interesting! Good job so far. Now it has me thinking that it would be cool to make a Kilrathi alien race from Wing Commander Series...hrrmmm. Muton looks like a good one to start and add some really good bare handed melee. I may have to dust off my poor graphic skills now....
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thanks guys.
it still has issues in sprite mostly arm stuff but im slowly fixing it. but question is! what is the terror unit ? i wanna add 2 simple terror units
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Looks interesting! Good job so far. Now it has me thinking that it would be cool to make a Kilrathi alien race from Wing Commander Series...hrrmmm. Muton looks like a good one to start and add some really good bare handed melee. I may have to dust off my poor graphic skills now....
mrrshan in master of orion :) yea that would be cool. probably modify muton as well? just add the lion head on top of muton body
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mrrshan in master of orion :) yea that would be cool. probably modify muton as well? just add the lion head on top of muton body
That's what I was thinking. Make the colors with more orange, red, and yellows.
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but to stay true with UFO you need to name them not their actual race name but their look-like name. Lobsterman, Gillman, etc etc. Snakeman. It would be Feline Man o Felinoid or Lionoid or Tigeroid or Panther Man or something. Lion Man?
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Cat Man sounds a bit cheesy, but it's promising nonetheless.
Attaching an alternative, orange metal Muton sprite, might be useful in this department.
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Looks awesome so far!
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Cat Man sounds a bit cheesy, but it's promising nonetheless.
Yeah, needs something tougher. Like...
(https://i.imgur.com/15jSz6I.jpg)
...THE PUMAMAN!
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how abut stlaker and make it aggresion 1 or 0 (balanced or passive) and give it a melee attack so he will just wait for you and ambush you instead of looking out for you and an intelligence of 8 make him very smart
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thanks guys.
it still has issues in sprite mostly arm stuff but im slowly fixing it. but question is! what is the terror unit ? i wanna add 2 simple terror units
I feel like your thread has been hijacked:)
Your question is tricky, but if I was thinking along the lines of the "ant" theme, I'm reminded of those bugs ants use as "cows" to milk. Maybe those caterpillars (I think aphids too) could be more omnious of course. Some kind of symbiotic relationship between the terror units and the ant critters.
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Cat Man sounds a bit cheesy, but it's promising nonetheless.
Attaching an alternative, orange metal Muton sprite, might be useful in this department.
Cool graphic. Might be useful.
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I feel like your thread has been hijacked:)
Your question is tricky, but if I was thinking along the lines of the "ant" theme, I'm reminded of those bugs ants use as "cows" to milk. Maybe those caterpillars (I think aphids too) could be more omnious of course. Some kind of symbiotic relationship between the terror units and the ant critters.
nah is cool.
i just created a possible terror unit just implementing the ruelset now. i just finished the graphic
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progress on antman
(https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3435.0;attach=13797;image)
they will have 2 terror units eventually
ant man - (real name klackon?)
high fontal resistance to damage
high resistance to most damage types but weak against melee and stun. otherwise only 45 hp so 1 stun rod can bust them down.
they all got psi attack power 20 and intelligence is 4+
they use drones to scout out the enemy and just psi weaken them THEN attack..you will see drones a lot not just in terror missions ..in terror mission there will be another terror unit that i haven't designed yet
they are even more insanely resistant than lobsterman but mostly frontal...they take only 10% damage from AP 20% from incendiary, he , 30% from laser , 40% from plasma, 70% from acid 200% from melee and 140% from stun
Probe - terrorist unit
low hp
really high accuracy
a built in low damage laser
high tu
i'm wanna give it a built in medkit . Can aliens use medikit weapons?? i guess i will find out.
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Nice little critters!
But may I suggest Hunter-seeker instead of Probe? That name fit better for a quick, sniping droid. Probe suggest an unarmed exploring device.
Also really interested by the Antman autopsy. Nice creature, just a bit bulky. The pedia picture suggest a slender thing instead of a bulky, big head. I assume you shall explain it with a caste-based hive society where the worker showed on the picture but the player encounter with the warrior caste.
And they really deserve a new craft with alien garden interrior... Hiveship mayhaps?
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Kudos on the progress, but I feel that the previous colours (reddish and orange) looked much nicer, more vivid. This one looks uniformly brown.
Is it just me, or the background, or did you change the palette?
And they really deserve a new craft with alien garden interrior... Hiveship mayhaps?
An interesting idea, though they'd need their own special missions for this. Maybe instead make a special alien base mission, just for them?
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still balancing him out.
they are very strong but not as strong as lobsterman. i keep going back and forth on the details.
but right now they are abit weaker than lobsterman ...disregard the armors above
new stats
- 1.0 nothing
- 0.2 ap
- 0.3 incendiary
- 0.4 he
- 0.4 laser
- 0.5 plasma
- 1.1 stun
- 2.0 melee
- 0.7 acid
- 0.0 smoke
Antmen have agggression 1 (balanced) while probes have aggression 2. All antmen have psi attack but is really weak soldier has psi 10. Probes are also really high TU and weak ish . So the idea is probes find you and Antmen will just stay behind and psi attack you. They don't really engage much in open combat unless they have to.
Here is my idea. Antmen don't have a leader , commander or specific roles. They are all soldier rank. The only difference is you get Psi-focus and or battle focused. Generic is tough and weak psi. Leader/commander is soldier with tougher psi but weaker armor. Support roles like engineer or medic are filled up by terror units.
- STR_ANTMAN_SOLDIER
- STR_ANTMAN_SOLDIER
- STR_ANTMAN_SOLDIER
- STR_ANTMAN_SOLDIER
- STR_PROBE_TERRORIST <engineer is in fact drone?
- STR_ANTMAN_SOLDIER
- STR_????_TERRORIST <1 other terror unit
- STR_????_TERRORIST
Antmen just employ drones and other terror units to fill their ranks. They are unable to be better than each they as they are all equal. They simply focus on psi or on combat. That's it. Psi focused antman is commander/leader but is essentially weaker /higher psi antman soldier.
Kudos on the progress, but I feel that the previous colours (reddish and orange) looked much nicer, more vivid. This one looks uniformly brown.
thanks :)
they gonna look orange ish. this is just a test. and i do wanna make their ufopaedia more beefed up and frontal Gallop style
An interesting idea, though they'd need their own special missions for this. Maybe instead make a special alien base mission, just for them?
yeah that would be cool. for now i am still trying to make the sprites work decently. is good enough but i want perfect
Nice little critters!
But may I suggest Hunter-seeker instead of Probe? That name fit better for a quick, sniping droid. Probe suggest an unarmed exploring device.
Also really interested by the Antman autopsy. Nice creature, just a bit bulky. The pedia picture suggest a slender thing instead of a bulky, big head. I assume you shall explain it with a caste-based hive society where the worker showed on the picture but the player encounter with the warrior caste.
And they really deserve a new craft with alien garden interrior... Hiveship mayhaps?
hive mind for sure. would be really cool to have a hive/insect type ship/base. maybe a base.
Hunter-Seeker sounds fine! I like it. Probe does have a melee stun attack but mostly uses ranged. Ufopedia is gonna change i want them more beefed up frontal. Also probe is pretty generic quick pick name for lack of a better one.
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the ufopedia image hopefully is gonna change but for now ill use it place holder
(https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3435.0;attach=13805;image)
also new drone look ...some red at the bottom makes it more menacing also drone is animated and and eye spins around
also changed name of drone to Hunter-Seeker makes more sense actually
(https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3435.0;attach=13809;image)
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Awesome drone.
Looks like an Imperial droid recreated by insects. Which seems right, of course. :)
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Ufopaedia image cries for hand work after awful scaling.
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Ufopaedia image cries for hand work after awful scaling.
I believe the author repeated to death that "this is only temporary". :P
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Nice work on the drone. I like it.
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I believe the author repeated to death that "this is only temporary". :P
I like this alien and in battlescape specially, but putting the ufopaedia image into proper shape is gonna be not easy. I just hope the author(tollworkout) will finish this :)
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check this out sneak peak of new ufopaedia :) mix of chrys & waspite and my own painting..the idea is to make it look a lot like the other aliens and like xcom vanilla style. so all insects have similar features legs/ eyes for ex etc
I like this alien and in battlescape specially, but putting the ufopaedia image into proper shape is gonna be not easy. I just hope the author(tollworkout) will finish this :)
you bet i will & thanks :)
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Nice.
Can we please have hands on the lower arms? you know, to hold the rifle? :)
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yes true. that should be do-able
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Cat Man sounds a bit cheesy, but it's promising nonetheless.
Attaching an alternative, orange metal Muton sprite, might be useful in this department.
Uhhh. Solarious you are giving my new Ideas for my mod i can Make Muton Elites! :D
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Nice.
Can we please have hands on the lower arms? you know, to hold the rifle? :)
https://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Genestealers :)
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haha i just realized i been using drone and probe interchangeable and so has everyone else :)
is gonna be hunter seeker from now on. is incredibly agressive and shoots like 5 times low damage . is just annoying as shit. and they explode like cyberdisk but radius is 3 instead of 6 but same power. so they are just all scouting killing suicidal machines . their purpose is to weaken/expose the enemy so antman can use psi attacks .
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https://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Genestealers :)
actually im using bug hands 3 claws 1 of which is an opposing thumb type claw kinda like this for the lack of a better picture https://wiki.rpg.net/images/f/fa/ExampleThriKreen1.jpg (https://wiki.rpg.net/images/f/fa/ExampleThriKreen1.jpg)
EDIT: that looks scary
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DONE :)
(https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3435.0;attach=13841;image)
starting autopsy soon . He's sitting on the table ready to operate! > : D
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We have a winner! Awesome job on the ufopedia pic!
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Will you marry me? O_O
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hahaha 日本人 ですか？ lOL
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the autopsy picture
i might tweak these later :)
(https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3435.0;attach=13877;image)
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Good start. Although, it kind of looks like it's eating the green thingie instead of looking like it's internals. Maybe move it down a bit from the mandibles. Also, my brain is recognizing it as the Celatid internals, so maybe change the color from green to something else like yellow or bright pink if you can.
BTW, good job moving the arms around to make it look dead.
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okay good points. does look like he's eating something. and is celatid internals haha. damn ok. back to work!
EDIT check this out fixed it up a bit more
EDIT fixed it again check it out
(https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3435.0;attach=13885;image)
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Much much better.
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hey guys you can try and test this out pre -alpha release i recommend playing with my melee mod as it makes it easier to deal with them. plasma is much more easy against them but all other weapons not so good.
works in battle mode only they don't appear in the game yet i didn't add that into ruleset
the ufopaedia images still need some fixing up they have a few issues still
and drone image is temporary i'm gonna make a better one.
and the animation for lower hands has a bit of issues i noticed once or twice esp in the walking cycle. i have to go trough all the frames again ill do that tomorrow.
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すごいですね! :)
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すごいですね! :)
ありがとう；）
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Been working so hard that i'm taking a break from modding this specific mod but I'll be back. I'm still working on the other mods though.
i just need to fix graphics and add a terror unit which is gonna be that doom brain spider unit. Hunter-Seeker is not meant to be a terror unit but it fills the role of Ant Man Engineer.
I also need to make them appear in the game.
SOON! Too much ant-man for this week hahaha.
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How's the mod coming along? :)
Yeah, I'm really excited about it.
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How's the mod coming along? :)
Yeah, I'm really excited about it.
You need to add this to FMP when its complete ofc. It might be a fine replacement for the TFTD units. Then again I am the only one who complains about it so, just simply add them :P
Troll, this is excellent and I cant wait to get my paws on it. Though I liked the first iteration of the Ufopedia better XD
Great job m8. A suggestion that I fear it might not be feasable for the future. You might want to design one of them with wings and the ability to fly (or just wings) to fill the commander role on a base.
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You need to add this to FMP when its complete ofc. It might be a fine replacement for the TFTD units. Then again I am the only one who complains about it so, just simply add them :P
I'd prefer to just edit their graphics. I have ideas, but can't really do much with it now.
You might want to design one of them with wings and the ability to fly (or just wings) to fill the commander role on a base.
That's a very nice idea. We could also have enormous bumblebees for terror units. Imagine the buzzing sound! :)
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That's a very nice idea. We could also have enormous bumblebees for terror units. Imagine the buzzing sound! :)
Every. Time. They. Move :)
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That's a very nice idea. We could also have enormous bumblebees for terror units. Imagine the buzzing sound! :)
I think something more scarry could be in order: https://www.tofugu.com/2013/08/01/10-horrifying-insects-that-will-make-you-reconsider-ever-visiting-japan/
Not that I dislike the drone.
Check 4, and 3 or simply google Brahmin Caterpillar its suitably alien. However those need (I assume) a ton of work to make.
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Sorry, is there any download for this mod somewhere?
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but to stay true with UFO you need to name them not their actual race name but their look-like name. Lobsterman, Gillman, etc etc. Snakeman. It would be Feline Man o Felinoid or Lionoid or Tigeroid or Panther Man or something. Lion Man?
Um... that only applies to some of them. I'll admit, a lot of them, but the Muton, Sectoid, Tasoth, and Xarquid seem to have at least more scientifically given names, if not an equivalent given by psionic/traditional interrogation. At least perhaps the codename used in alien infiltration and other missions. Easier perhaps to get people to trust you if you're the envoy of a fictional people rather than who your conquered species is currently working for.
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ありがとう；）
Thank God I am fluent in Google Translate.
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Um... that only applies to some of them. I'll admit, a lot of them, but the Muton, Sectoid, Tasoth, and Xarquid seem to have at least more scientifically given names, if not an equivalent given by psionic/traditional interrogation. At least perhaps the codename used in alien infiltration and other missions. Easier perhaps to get people to trust you if you're the envoy of a fictional people rather than who your conquered species is currently working for.
How about Formicoid?
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