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Modding => Released Mods => Topic started by: SupSuper on April 18, 2014, 11:37:34 pm

Title: New Mod Portal
Post by: SupSuper on April 18, 2014, 11:37:34 pm
https://www.corelabrat.com/oxc-mods/

Jo5hua has set up a shiny mod portal for OpenXcom mods for a long while now (supplanting Luke's mod site), and while it's only 97% done, it's never getting to those 100% if people don't use and test it!

I strongly recommend mod authors to take advantage of it. It's a lot easier to use and navigate than the forums, since everything is nicely organized and split up in sections, smoother search, integrated downloads (no dodgy third-party sites), etc. It avoids the annoyances of digging through threads, dealing with forum attachments, making sure the version you have is the latest, etc. Plus in the future it might be integrated with OpenXcom so people can automatically download and install mods from it. So please try it out. :)

You can still use this forum for discussions if you prefer. To avoid having to keep updating two separate places, I'd suggest just linking the first post in your thread to the respective mod page entry. If your mod is already up on the site under a different user, check with Jo5hua on how to get control of it (original discussion thread is here: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?topic=1835.0).
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on April 19, 2014, 02:44:29 am
If you don 't mind Sup, I would like to add that while many (if not all) mods from this forum are already uploaded to the site, but they mostly feature under a virtual user's account called "OXCMods" instead of their respective creators/maintainers. This means that these mods are not updated by their authors, not to mention they don't clearly indicate who those authors are.

So people, if you want to distribute your wonderful mods properly, please create an account there and upload your stuff under your own name/nickname. If the mod is already on the website, no problem - I'm sure Jo5hua will happily remove it once a proper upload from you exists. (That's what he did with mine when I notified him.)

And, well, the portal is great and looks great. The sooner we all switch to it, the faster it will be complete. See you all there!
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: moriarty on April 19, 2014, 01:23:41 pm
we should also include a link to it on the openxcom webpage... :)
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: SupSuper on April 19, 2014, 05:23:07 pm
There is. (https://openxcom.org/index.php/downloads-extras/) ;) Lots of makeovers going on behind the scenes.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on May 01, 2014, 01:09:47 pm
The modsite is now available on the new domain name openxcom.com .. If you are a mod author please update your links to not use the old www.corelabrat.com/oxc-mods URL. All corelabrat URL links will now redirect to the new openxcom.com URL. Good thing is that now if you are doing a google search for "openxcom mods" (which people are currently doing), the modsite will now show up in the google search results.

If you have any issues or requests please direct them to the modsite forum post at: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?topic=1835.0

Everything is working perfectly, so now the next phase is to implement an in-game mod download feature that will link directly to the modsite :) ETA: TBA

PS: To clear any confusion - the idea is to keep the forums for mod discussion and development posts as it is now. The modsite is created to make it easier for OpenXcom players to see all the mods in an easy to view place. Mod discussions and development ideas and updates will obviously continue as currently... The modsite is an easy interface for people who are playing OpenXcom to view all mods. So mod authors are encouraged to continue what they are doing on the forums, but they are also now encouraged to add their mods to the official mod site for the openxcom players out there.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: wsmithjr on June 17, 2014, 05:13:52 am
Everything is working perfectly, so now the next phase is to implement an in-game mod download feature that will link directly to the modsite :) ETA: TBA

Umm, not exactly "perfectly".  (No offense intended; the site is really nice, just at least 1 bug remaining.)  Was looking for a good place to post this and I'm hoping this thread is as good as any.

On the Mod Portal, when you select a type of mod you would like to view, say "Weapons" under the "Mods" menu option, as of a few minutes ago, it showed there were 26 files found over 4 pages.  However, if you click any of the page numbers at the bottom or the "Next" button, it immediately switches to viewing all mods, currently 61.  I can't figure out how to view the other pages of just weapon mods.

Not that big of a deal, but as more mods get added, this will become more significant.  Thanks for listening.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on June 19, 2014, 08:28:01 am
Thanks for the report! This is one of the bugs which is being fixed.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Gifty on June 19, 2014, 09:51:23 am
On this subject, I've tried uploading my X-Com soundtrack to the portal but I get the "this mod cannot be found" error every time I go to publish. Any guess as to why this is happening? Perhaps the file (33mb) is too big?

Love the mod portal, regardless. Very slick and easy to navigate.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on June 21, 2014, 01:34:28 pm
On this subject, I've tried uploading my X-Com soundtrack to the portal but I get the "this mod cannot be found" error every time I go to publish. Any guess as to why this is happening? Perhaps the file (33mb) is too big?

Love the mod portal, regardless. Very slick and easy to navigate.

Hmm interesting. I'm working on the site I will look into it. Thanks!
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on June 24, 2014, 10:30:54 pm
On this subject, I've tried uploading my X-Com soundtrack to the portal but I get the "this mod cannot be found" error every time I go to publish. Any guess as to why this is happening? Perhaps the file (33mb) is too big?

Love the mod portal, regardless. Very slick and easy to navigate.

There was an bug which where the site didn't handle mods named with some special characters and punctuation. This has been fixed now and your mod now appears on the site.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: yrizoud on July 06, 2014, 03:03:05 am
Posting mods on the mod portal requires giving e-mail and full name and agreeing with unknown "terms of service" (it's a dead link). So is the "privacy policy" (dead link too).

Jo5hua, why do you need real life identity of modders, and what are they agreeing to ?
I reported it in March, and the fact that you still haven't done anything about it makes me think I was right to be untrusting.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on July 06, 2014, 06:01:11 pm
Posting mods on the mod portal requires giving e-mail and full name and agreeing with unknown "terms of service" (it's a dead link). So is the "privacy policy" (dead link too).

Jo5hua, why do you need real life identity of modders, and what are they agreeing to ?
I reported it in March, and the fact that you still haven't done anything about it makes me think I was right to be untrusting.

An email is required for activation, otherwise the website is vulnerable to spam attacks. Providing your name only provides further trust that you are not a malicious user trying to upload malicious files on the website. No information is being used for any other purpose. Most websites on the internet require the basics Email/Name/Agreement.

Yes the Terms of Service and Privacy statement are not complete yet, my apologies. There were still many important areas and bugs on website which took priority while in development. I promise they will be on the site during Phase2 Todo list which has begun. The Terms of Service will be pretty much the same one on here on the forums, no abuse, no hacks, no illegal stuff, this way the user agrees not to do anything malicious on the website.

The Privacy Statement will a generic privacy statement. The only time your email will be used is when resetting your password (phase 2 feature), or if you elect to receive newsletter emails (for when/if we do this in the future).

If using your first and last name bothers you, you are always free to use a fake first/last name.

I've added both pages to the todo list of Phase 2 which I'm working on, they just have not been a big priority while building out the core of the site.
https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?topic=1835.msg17060#msg17060

Hope this eases your worries.  :)
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Muukalainen on July 06, 2014, 06:09:20 pm
I already tried fake name and it never sent me the activation mail, so I can not upload my gun mod.

I only use my real information on the most important services like email address that I really don't want to lose.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on July 06, 2014, 06:25:30 pm
I already tried fake name and it never sent me the activation mail, so I can not upload my gun mod.

You don't think that the mod site magically hooks up to an NSA server and verifies if your name is real, do you? :D

Still, demanding a name from the user seems rather silly. You said yourself Jo5hua that we can use a fake, so what's the point? To eliminate any malicious users who are too stupid to think of this? Come on.

On a different subject, the picture management is still unavailable, after months of being "almost done". What's the actual status on this?
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on July 06, 2014, 06:34:34 pm
I already tried fake name and it never sent me the activation mail, so I can not upload my gun mod.

I only use my real information on the most important services like email address that I really don't want to lose.

Please check your spam email it may have gone in there.
You don't think that the mod site magically hooks up to an NSA server and verifies if your name is real, do you? :D

Still, demanding a name from the user seems rather silly. You said yourself Jo5hua that we can use a fake, so what's the point? To eliminate any malicious users who are too stupid to think of this? Come on.

On a different subject, the picture management is still unavailable, after months of being "almost done". What's the actual status on this?

This will be fixed today. It's been traced to a Firefox issue and is a bug to be fixed on the current list. My apologies for these minor bugs sir :) Still some more bugs to iron out! You have my word (the bird is the word - sorry obligatory).
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on July 13, 2014, 04:32:33 am
This will be fixed today. It's been traced to a Firefox issue and is a bug to be fixed on the current list. My apologies for these minor bugs sir :) Still some more bugs to iron out! You have my word (the bird is the word - sorry obligatory).

Today is goddamn long. :P

Anyway, I have another bug to report. I added Dioxine's mod here https://www.openxcom.com/mod/flamethrower , entered his name under the creator field, but it shows me as the author. Can you please rectify this?
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Mr. Quiet on October 23, 2014, 11:53:13 pm
We should pinup a list of all completed mods so new X-COMers don't have to go through the trouble of hunting for mods, page by page. Would be nice to do it now. Call it: Completely Mods List, Conveniently Updated Weekly.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Align on March 21, 2015, 05:59:23 pm
https://www.corelabrat.com/oxc-mods/ gives a 404 error now; use https://www.openxcom.com instead.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on May 05, 2015, 02:45:22 pm
https://www.corelabrat.com/oxc-mods/ gives a 404 error now; use https://www.openxcom.com instead.

Fixed. The old link will now redirect to www.openxcom.com
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Yankes on June 07, 2015, 01:11:23 pm
Jo5hua I have problem with my mod page, when I try open it I get error.
https://www.openxcom.com/mod/openxcom-extended >> "There was an error Cannot find this mod in the system"
But I still can see it and edit in my control panel. Could you check what go wrong?
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on June 07, 2015, 02:55:51 pm
Jo5hua I have problem with my mod page, when I try open it I get error.
https://www.openxcom.com/mod/openxcom-extended >> "There was an error Cannot find this mod in the system"
But I still can see it and edit in my control panel. Could you check what go wrong?

Yikes. Thanks for reporting this, I'm looking into this right now. :)
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on July 31, 2015, 05:08:19 pm
Jo5hua, I've uploaded a new Final Mod Pack version and it can't be downloaded (error). I've tried many times, with various filenames. Other mods are working fine.

EDIT: It works now. Now idea why.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on July 31, 2015, 05:33:06 pm
It might be caused by a special character in the download link... the broken one had a plus sign there... all other links don't.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on July 31, 2015, 05:57:44 pm
It might be caused by a special character in the download link... the broken one had a plus sign there... all other links don't.

Just to be clear, it certainly wasn't in the filename or anything.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on July 31, 2015, 06:04:10 pm
No no, not the file name... I meant the download link generated by the portal.

Something like this: https://www.openxcom.com/mod/final-mod-pack/download/VmeaPsR4

But in the broken one instead of "VmeaPsR4" there was something like this "xxx+xxx". I don't remember exactly the letters, but there was a + in the middle.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on August 02, 2015, 12:37:20 am
Yes for some reason there is a small chance that a non standard character will break the link algorithm.. I haven't been able to work on this problem on an actual broken link to debug what's causing it since it's so rare.. But my guess is that it's most likely a character in the file name itself that is causing an error with the Download Link algorithm (it's le simple :) funny stuff will cause it to complain and not work right).

Glad you got it fixed though... I will add on the todo to add a note on the Mod Uploader to make sure there are no weird characters in the file name.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on August 02, 2015, 08:55:30 am
Yes for some reason there is a small chance that a non standard character will break the link algorithm.. I haven't been able to work on this problem on an actual broken link to debug what's causing it since it's so rare.. But my guess is that it's most likely a character in the file name itself that is causing an error with the Download Link algorithm (it's le simple :) funny stuff will cause it to complain and not work right).

Glad you got it fixed though... I will add on the todo to add a note on the Mod Uploader to make sure there are no weird characters in the file name.

It's not the file name, that was OK.

It's the download link... I have prepared an example for you to debug: https://www.openxcom.com/mod/test123

The download link for the file is: https://www.openxcom.com/mod/test123/download/U9/z/+ut

I believe the "+" is causing the problem.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on August 09, 2015, 12:00:02 pm
Jo5sua, don't you think openTFTD release deserves a news article? :)
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on August 09, 2015, 01:08:03 pm
New changes on the modsite are bieng worked on.  All mods will have the choice of being labelled as either pre 1.0 (default), 1.0 latest [nightly) secondary option, and TFTF mod.... I will flag everything as pre nightly and mass email the mod authors to flag appropriately.... Let me know if it should be different, send ideas, so that its easier for game users.. Thanks!
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on August 09, 2015, 01:15:05 pm
New changes on the modsite are bieng worked on.  All mods will have the choice of being labelled as either pre 1.0 (default), 1.0 latest [nightly) secondary option, and TFTF mod.... I will flag everything as pre nightly and mass email the mod authors to flag appropriately.... Let me know if it should be different, send ideas, so that its easier for game users.. Thanks!

I'm not sure it's necessary to differentiate between 1.0, nightly etc., since pretty soon there will be only one version of Openxcom. Therefore I feel such categorization would bring little gain but cause a lot of hassle for everyone (not just modders, users too). I'd rather stick to the UFO/TFTD division only.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: SupSuper on August 09, 2015, 02:05:03 pm
I think there should at least be a mod format categorization, so that programs and users can tell apart the old 1.0 mod format (all contents went in Data) and new 2.0 mod format (self-contained folder with metadata), as they need to be installed differently.

Of course all new mods should have the new formats, but I doubt the hundred old mods will be immediately updated.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on August 09, 2015, 02:16:29 pm
Updating is trivial enough that just one person could do it over a reasonable time. A bigger problem would be to upload the new versions when one isn't the original mod author - I don't think we can do this behind the author's back.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: yrizoud on August 09, 2015, 03:54:31 pm
I don't think we can do this behind the author's back.
The people who created an account checked the  "I agree to the Terms of Service conditions" box, they have to accept the consequences.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on August 09, 2015, 05:13:18 pm
I'm not sure it's necessary to differentiate between 1.0, nightly etc., since pretty soon there will be only one version of Openxcom. Therefore I feel such categorization would bring little gain but cause a lot of hassle for everyone (not just modders, users too). I'd rather stick to the UFO/TFTD division only.

And the consequences and agreement / terns of services -- are not specified.. Welcome to America.... Muhahahha.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: yrizoud on August 09, 2015, 10:16:34 pm
...And this is why you shouldn't be trusted to collect people's personal information.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on August 10, 2015, 06:26:16 pm
You know what else America is big on? Copyrights. I guess editing someone's mod could fall under this. ;)
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: yrizoud on August 10, 2015, 07:08:43 pm
Do I need to remind you of EULAs and the risk of signing without reading ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ23kosLFec (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ23kosLFec)
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on August 13, 2015, 06:18:38 am
EULA agreements TOS takes time to create if anyone is willing to work on this please feel free to submit a proposal. At the moment I am working on integrating a new system to separate Old mod version with the new version, as well as TFTD mod support to look for either OXC/ TOS mods.. It's not a matter of Welcome to America.. It's a matter of my time and what is important to prioritize first. There is only one developer myself working on the modsite as there isn't anyone else with the required skills and more importantly the trust to have access to the system to join the team of modsite developers..

In regards to resolution I'm creating a new dropdown to separate Old Style Mods / New Style Mods and also OXC and TFTD mods. Further I'm creating a new Moderator user that will be able to update old mods and upload updated mod files. At the moment it's the best way to improve the current situation with old/new mod formats and now tftd. I'm definately open to ideas to improve the process, and apologize that I haven't created a proper TOS for the modsite. I Would not worry too much about the TOS because it's just a simple mod repository. The TOS will basically be the same TOS that is on this forum in which users agree not to abuse the system.

So no worries there. The only 'personal information' required is an email address to send activation email. The first and last name you can put whatever, as stated below. The registration form is a standard form that asks for basic information which every site on the internet asks for. I'm not selling any data to anyone and there is no need to worry about this :) The sole purpose of the site is to provide an easy accessible way to view all mods for a project that I very much support and love.

This is an opensource project, there is no big corporation or copywrite hound dogs after anyone's mod files or email addresses. This is for the love of OpenXcom which those concerns can understand.

I will be creating a news post for TFTD as well. Please let me know your concerns regarding the site if not mentioned or resolved in this post. I'm open to ideas because this site is not for me, it's for you and OpenXcom. Along with the new features mentioned above, I'm still working to finish the new Podcast area where anyone can promote and post their play throughs on the site just like they do with their mods, a new Mod API for a project a member is working on which will integrate the mod site to the game.. There is nothing but great stuff coming :)

PS, my EULA/TOS will basically say: "Abuse/attack the site and we will send ninjas to kill you" no just kidding. Just standard stuff... We aren't Facebook or Itunes :) Remember, EULA/TOS (while not complete yet because we have bigger items to implement first) are to prevent abuse and attacks. The site has been attacked by hackers and people trying to flood the site with fake bot registrations. It's required for protection, not only for the modsite, but to maintain it's integrity on the files that are hosted.

Much love commanders, suggestions welcome as always.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on August 22, 2015, 12:09:32 pm
Jo5hua, could you please enable permanent login? Logging in several times a day is needlessly exhausting.

EDIT: I've just noticed the only version of my Minigun mod available is 1.3, even though there are numerous later versions. WTF?

EDIT: Same with Dart Rifle. I'd be happy to just delete these mods and upload them again, but they'll still be clashing with their duplicate.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on November 20, 2015, 10:08:29 pm
Jo5hua, could you please enable permanent login? Logging in several times a day is needlessly exhausting.

EDIT: I've just noticed the only version of my Minigun mod available is 1.3, even though there are numerous later versions. WTF?

EDIT: Same with Dart Rifle. I'd be happy to just delete these mods and upload them again, but they'll still be clashing with their duplicate.

I have designed a system in which permanent logins would work on the site. This would involve in the site creating a cookie with a special encrypted key saved in your browser. When you click on "Remember Me" it will save the key on your computer so when you go on the site again and you are logged out, it will read the key and log you in. At that instance the website will issue you a new key for the next time you are logged out, so the keys will always change with each new "session". At the moment while it's not a hard task to create and implement, it's not a quick one, but it's been put on the todo list. Care has to be taken when creating and implementing this to maintain a level of security.

I'm looking into the duplicate mod issue you are experience, sorry for this!
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on November 21, 2015, 11:56:16 am
Thanks Jo5hua. Now how's the situation with the broken downloads? Apparently nobody can upload a new mod version - it looks like it's working, but then you can't download anything (no, there are no + characters in the link, but it doesn't work anyway). Or was it fixed already?
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Yankes on November 21, 2015, 01:43:45 pm
If I recall correctly problematic char was "/" It split value in two making URL referencing new place not existing on server.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on November 21, 2015, 02:27:44 pm
If I recall correctly problematic char was "/" It split value in two making URL referencing new place not existing on server.

Maybe at some other point. I'm sure my (and not only mine) trouble was with +.

But it seems to work now.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on November 21, 2015, 08:25:33 pm
Ok thanks for reporting I will fix the uploader shortly to rename all files on upload stripping all non letters/numbers/periods. This should fix that problem, will post back here when corrected.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Arthanor on November 21, 2015, 08:56:52 pm
I don't think the problem is with people's files having special characters. It seemed to be with the download links having an identifier that contains said characters.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on March 05, 2016, 07:32:28 pm
I've been unable to upload anything over the past weeks and generate a working download link. Neither was Dioxine.

I'm officially done with the site, at least for now. Dropbox will have to suffice.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on March 05, 2016, 08:00:21 pm
I've been unable to upload anything over the past weeks and generate a working download link. Neither was Dioxine.

I'm officially done with the site, at least for now. Dropbox will have to suffice.

Hello! Sorry I just saw this now. I will check this to see what is the problem. We just moved to a new host so this might have been the issue with uploads working. Please stand by while we fix this.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on March 05, 2016, 08:12:39 pm
All right, but please report if you succeeded.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Countdown on March 05, 2016, 11:59:32 pm
On a separate note, does anyone else have the issue that https://ufopaedia.org is constantly down? It'll work sporadically, but lately it's down more often than not.

I know it's not run by OXC, but just curious if this is a historical issue (always being down) or only a recent problem.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: jgatkinsn on March 06, 2016, 01:52:17 am
On a separate note, does anyone else have the issue that https://ufopaedia.org is constantly down? It'll work sporadically, but lately it's down more often than not.

I know it's not run by OXC, but just curious if this is a historical issue (always being down) or only a recent problem.

Some recent info located at https://www.strategycore.co.uk/forums/topic/11302-resignation-as-ufopaedia-administrator/#entry150583 (https://www.strategycore.co.uk/forums/topic/11302-resignation-as-ufopaedia-administrator/#entry150583) and at https://www.strategycore.co.uk/forums/forum/96-ufopaediaorg/ (https://www.strategycore.co.uk/forums/forum/96-ufopaediaorg/)
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on March 06, 2016, 03:00:39 am
All right, but please report if you succeeded.

Will be fixed shortly.

--- posts merge ---

Some recent info located at https://www.strategycore.co.uk/forums/topic/11302-resignation-as-ufopaedia-administrator/#entry150583 (https://www.strategycore.co.uk/forums/topic/11302-resignation-as-ufopaedia-administrator/#entry150583) and at https://www.strategycore.co.uk/forums/forum/96-ufopaediaorg/ (https://www.strategycore.co.uk/forums/forum/96-ufopaediaorg/)

This is sad terrible news. I know how important the UFOpaedia is very important to all things related. Does anyone know who is running this? I will be happy to put it on one of my very powerful servers for free. I have websites that do 2 million hits so the server will never have downtime issues due to load. The modsite for example has a giant high resolution image as the background but still loads very fast.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Countdown on March 06, 2016, 06:33:08 am
In the meantime while they're getting it sorted out, I've been using the Internet Archive to look up stuff on ufopaedia. It won't have the most recent updates, but most of the information there is unchanging so it's helpful if you need to look a couple things up: https://web.archive.org/web/20150605133243https:///https://ufopaedia.org/index.php
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Xeno Wiper on March 08, 2016, 11:08:30 pm
Yo Jo5h, how is my download problem fix going? Any news?


Could you fix it, PLOX?
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on March 08, 2016, 11:36:06 pm
Yo Jo5h, how is my download problem fix going? Any news?


Could you fix it, PLOX?

Almost there ;) Had to get my new computer up and running!
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Xeno Wiper on March 11, 2016, 09:49:30 am
Looks like there's now a nice post on mod portal advertising its cool features...
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on March 11, 2016, 08:04:32 pm
Looks like there's now a nice post on mod portal advertising its cool features...

Which post is this? I would like to see.

UPDATE: I am having our datacenter provision a new server which is far faster and will also be hosting UFOPaedia.org webiste. We are currently waiting for the datacenter to complete the new server build and it will be running on quad SSD raid10 providing very high performance so both sites will enjoy the benefit of high uptime, fast website load times, and a farly superior reliability and stability of service. The server will be available today so we hope to have all these things taken care of in the next day. Will keep you posted.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on March 18, 2016, 01:13:34 pm
How's the migration going, Jo5hua? I'd like to release an update soon and first would like to know if uploading it to the mod site is possible, since it takes time...
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: hellrazor on March 18, 2016, 01:24:01 pm
Downloads from newly uploaded files aren't were currently.

Old ones work fine thou.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on May 07, 2016, 05:22:01 pm
Surprise surprise, still doesn't work.

EDIT: Since the upload still hasn't been fixed (for months), and now I can't even log into my account, and therefore have no control over my works, I request deletion of my account. I will have to distribute the mods myself. The reason is that I can't update anything and people are downloading old versions of mods because they can't find newer ones.

I will be glad to return when the portal's fixed, but right now I'm just unable to sort out this mess between the players, the versions etc.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: hellrazor on May 30, 2016, 07:44:41 pm
It works if you use your username insteadof the email address.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on May 31, 2016, 12:18:04 pm
It works if you use your username insteadof the email address.

Cool, I'll check.
Can you actually upload something?
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Cooper on May 31, 2016, 02:36:33 pm
Cool, I'll check.
Can you actually upload something?
Nope, not even mod-pictures. But at least you can put download-links in the description. And add new mods.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on June 23, 2016, 07:05:02 pm
Surprise surprise, still doesn't work.

EDIT: Since the upload still hasn't been fixed (for months), and now I can't even log into my account, and therefore have no control over my works, I request deletion of my account. I will have to distribute the mods myself. The reason is that I can't update anything and people are downloading old versions of mods because they can't find newer ones.

I will be glad to return when the portal's fixed, but right now I'm just unable to sort out this mess between the players, the versions etc.

I have located the issue and fixed it can you please try to upload? I had missed the notification on this thread and just saw this now. The issue was caused due to an automatic update and it's been fixed now. Automatic updates have been disabled so we are good now. Please check this again and let me know.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on June 23, 2016, 09:17:36 pm
I have located the issue and fixed it can you please try to upload? I had missed the notification on this thread and just saw this now. The issue was caused due to an automatic update and it's been fixed now. Automatic updates have been disabled so we are good now. Please check this again and let me know.

Hmm, I uploaded the new version of FMP, but still: "The page you requested was not found. Please try again."
I have no + characters or any other shenanigans in the download link.

EDIT:
Nope, several weeks later - still the same thing.

EDIT:
Weeks later, I can't open my mod page at all - it says the website is offline. I can access it through My Mods though. Can someone please check if they can open Final Mod Pack, and if yes, is it downloadable?
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Yankes on July 24, 2016, 01:45:42 pm
Hmm, I uploaded the new version of FMP, but still: "The page you requested was not found. Please try again."
I have no + characters or any other shenanigans in the download link.

EDIT:
Nope, several weeks later - still the same thing.

EDIT:
Weeks later, I can't open my mod page at all - it says the website is offline. I can access it through My Mods though. Can someone please check if they can open Final Mod Pack, and if yes, is it downloadable?
Same here, I can't enter your page. Similar to what happening to my page.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Starving Poet on July 24, 2016, 04:43:00 pm
I can get the page to show up every 1 out of 7 tries or so.  The webserver is just closing connections.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: hellrazor on July 24, 2016, 05:26:24 pm
Well it wasworking yesterday and i was actually able to release some updates to some of my mods. Currently the site seems to be down maybe server reboot??
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Roxis231 on July 25, 2016, 12:49:52 am
I've been able to update the images and files - but people can't seem to down load the files.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Cooper on July 25, 2016, 01:14:27 am
I've been able to update the images and files - but people can't seem to down load the files.
It might work if you try again. 2 of 3 times when i uploaded things it worked, but 1 out of 3 times it seemed to be uploaded but could not be downloaded.

(Or better, the site should finally be fixed..)
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on October 16, 2016, 01:40:05 am
OK, great news: the site works!

The not so great news is that I had to delete almost all the previous versions of the mod before the page started to work. I don't really have a problem with it, but I it took me weeks to find the source of the problem (well okay, Yankes told me what to do). I guess some info on that would be good.


EDIT:

Now I can't upload my mod at all. After upload it doesn't come up on the mod list, both on the user end and on the back end. Notified Jo5hua a week ago, but no answer yet. Any ideas?
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on October 16, 2016, 01:42:48 am
Any ideas?

Just stop using it altogether? Joshua obviously doesn't give a damn for many months now...
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on October 16, 2016, 02:08:32 am
Just stop using it altogether? Joshua obviously doesn't give a damn for many months now...

He responded before, albeit erratically.

Most people get FMP through the mod site (after all it is the only modsite for OXC mods), and I don't want to make their life harder... And besides, I've been through this before and it worked out in the end. But it's extremely hard to operate like this, so...
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on October 16, 2016, 08:32:38 am
Hello!

We are currently working on a number of changes to the modsite which will greatly enhance website experience.. One of many will be to increase file size and improve the uploader function as well as increasing the file size of uploaded files. We are are adding lots of new features including a new admin capability which will allow us to add website administrators to the modsite.

Please let us know what features you would like to see so we can add this in our production of this new phase. We definitely would love to hear from you and know what new features and changes you would like to see. =)

Joshua
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on October 16, 2016, 11:05:45 am
Hello Joshua,

nice to hear about the new features... but it's like telling a starving child shortly before death that caviar will be served for dinner next week.

The mod site effectively does not work at least since February 2016 (probably even longer)... can we please first get just the simplest thing possible, where upload and download actually work? That's what people need... to download a file.

Meridian

PS: nothing personal, just trying to move the focus to the actual issue... it's been months
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Dioxine on October 16, 2016, 03:37:31 pm
I gave up on that site a long time ago and my advice is to do the same (except maybe for self-advertising which seems to be the only thing it's useful for).
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Hobbes on October 16, 2016, 04:54:38 pm
Hello!

We are currently working on a number of changes to the modsite which will greatly enhance website experience.. One of many will be to increase file size and improve the uploader function as well as increasing the file size of uploaded files. We are are adding lots of new features including a new admin capability which will allow us to add website administrators to the modsite.

Please let us know what features you would like to see so we can add this in our production of this new phase. We definitely would love to hear from you and know what new features and changes you would like to see. =)

Joshua

A big thank you to you Joshua, for all your work so far in the mod site. It isn't perfect, as the previous posts have shown, but to me they also show its importance to the community, despite the little quirks like the file size upload limit :)
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on October 16, 2016, 06:16:36 pm
A big thank you to you Joshua, for all your work so far in the mod site. It isn't perfect, as the previous posts have shown, but to me they also show its importance to the community, despite the little quirks like the file size upload limit :)

Little quirks??
I beg your pardon?

It is really commendable Hobbes that you want to encourage people in what they are doing and help the community and all that stuff... but in this case, your praise is really NOT justified.

I just checked when I reported the bug (it wasn't February 2016, it was actually August 2015).
Since then, nothing happened and it still doesn't work... for 15 months now.

Here is the original not working mod download from August 2015: https://www.openxcom.com/mod/test123

And here is one I created just 5 minutes ago, still suffering the same symptoms: https://www.openxcom.com/mod/test456

PS: the file size is just 161 bytes... I hope that doesn't count into category "file size too big".
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on October 16, 2016, 06:56:44 pm
Little quirks??
I beg your pardon?

It is really commendable Hobbes that you want to encourage people in what they are doing and help the community and all that stuff... but in this case, your praise is really NOT justified.

I just checked when I reported the bug (it wasn't February 2016, it was actually August 2015).
Since then, nothing happened and it still doesn't work... for 15 months now.

Here is the original not working mod download from August 2015: https://www.openxcom.com/mod/test123

And here is one I created just 5 minutes ago, still suffering the same symptoms: https://www.openxcom.com/mod/test456

PS: the file size is just 161 bytes... I hope that doesn't count into category "file size too big".

This will be #1 priority and will be fixed asap.. We are going to fix the mod names that are bugged as well as increase file size. Are there any other issues that need to be taken care of? Basic operations of the site are #1 priority and will be resolved very quickly. Thank you for following up! All will be fixed and resolved soon promise!
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Hobbes on October 16, 2016, 07:41:21 pm
It is really commendable Hobbes that you want to encourage people in what they are doing and help the community and all that stuff... but in this case, your praise is really NOT justified.

I understand and share the frustration that you feel with the site but consider this.

Joshua has been voluntarily hosting the mod site for years, giving his own free time and resources. Yes, the site definitely isn't perfect it currently has issues with uploads/downloads but unless you or anybody else is willing to give as much time, knowledge and resources as he's doing, despite his real life, then I'll still first praise him, before pointing out the flaws or suggesting improvements.

It's easy to complain about the mod portal, but if it was gone, then the community would definitely miss its absence.

And if anyone says that he/she could do a better job than Joshua and have a better mod portal, well, what are you waiting for?
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on October 17, 2016, 12:32:02 am
These issues are not difficult to resolve that is the good thing so we will be back 100% shortly. I was under the impression that uploads and downloads were working since my last update in June but was recently informed by Solar.. No worries commanders these will be fixed quickly.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on October 17, 2016, 01:05:40 am
Well, yes, but the truth is that I haven't been able to upload the FMP for over a week now, and it's been hard before. I don't mean stuff like the site crashing or having small bugs, it's either lack of site's essential function or having to do elaborate, non-intuitive stuff (like deleting most old versions) to make it work. Sometimes I feel I spend less energy modding than trying to upload my work, not to mention that I don't know when, and if ever, I'll be able to update. Sadly, choosing between this and, say, Mediafire is a no-brainer.
Writing a simplest possible html site with an upload and download manager would probably be a much better idea, as it would be maintainable.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on October 17, 2016, 07:32:01 am
All issues will be fixed and resolved this week I promise.. I have some projects that turned really really big and it consumed most my time... But I have made the changes to manage my time and I can now own my time...  I will be putting a lot more attention to the website here on forward and make sure any issue is resolved as quickly as possible... I spen't a lot of time building the site, 2 months that were so exciting to see each part of the website being built and come to life.. I have a strong commitment to OpenXcom and also the ModSite which is why I built it in the first place...  While I did give most my time to the project I launched I can now give full dedication and commitment to the maintenance of the website and give it the love it needs just as before -- life happens soz! So to summarize I will have all these issues fixed all of them very quickly.... Once these issues are fixed the modsite will be great and better..... And after that we can do more... I can now manage better between the two projects and make sure all issues are resolved ASAP with the modsite.. It's an important resource and it's very important to me and to you all I hope =) I'm not going anywhere and we're going to have this modsite for a very long time... I'm committed to it and I love it and all things XCom.... And eventually (hopefully soon!) we're going to have a few new sections going up... Like an upload repository where people can upload resources images sounds stuff they want to share.. This was something that someone mentioned would be great.. But any how, patch work in progress =) We WILL make it perfect (code is code). Commander out.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: ivandogovich on October 18, 2016, 06:27:03 pm
Looking forward to the fixes, J05hua! 

I'm thankful you have the time to sort all this out.  Cheers!
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on October 18, 2016, 08:23:33 pm
Looking forward to the fixes, J05hua! 

I'm thankful you have the time to sort all this out.  Cheers!

Yes sir! Very sorry for the issues and inconvenience I was under the impression all issues were resolved since our last update back in June https://www.openxcom.com/news/downloads-and-uploads-are-working-again

Let me know if a few of you have Skype and I will add you so we can test the fixes we are working on =) message me your skype and I'll add you this will help a lot thank you again! We will have everything fixed.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: SupSuper on October 19, 2016, 01:54:18 am
This will be #1 priority and will be fixed asap.. We are going to fix the mod names that are bugged as well as increase file size. Are there any other issues that need to be taken care of? Basic operations of the site are #1 priority and will be resolved very quickly. Thank you for following up! All will be fixed and resolved soon promise!
Upload File button doesn't seem to work for me at all, nothing happens after I select a file.
Special characters in the mod title (eg. ') break the url.
\ in mod descriptions disappear unless you manually escape them.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on October 19, 2016, 05:19:48 am
Upload File button doesn't seem to work for me at all, nothing happens after I select a file.
Special characters in the mod title (eg. ') break the url.
\ in mod descriptions disappear unless you manually escape them.

Thank you! Please keep the website bugs/issues coming I will knock them all out. Btw Sup I know you asked me to increase the upload limit to something much higher, what was that amount? I'll add it in. Afterwards we will have Site Moderators / Admin functionality so we can have people work and help manage the site... With the bugs fixed it's pretty much self managed but it will be nice to have an Admin panel for site moderators. =) Thank you for the reports!
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Yankes on October 19, 2016, 07:12:47 pm
Thank you! Please keep the website bugs/issues coming I will knock them all out. Btw Sup I know you asked me to increase the upload limit to something much higher, what was that amount? I'll add it in. Afterwards we will have Site Moderators / Admin functionality so we can have people work and help manage the site... With the bugs fixed it's pretty much self managed but it will be nice to have an Admin panel for site moderators. =) Thank you for the reports!
One bug that is some problematic (happened for me and Solarius Scorch) is time to open page increases with each download file. With there is around 50+ it delay it so much that web browsers timeout. It would be good to check what page is try doing for each download files, its possible its do something nontrivial that made everything crawl.

Another is that in download files url sometimes get special characters like '/' that break it.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: SupSuper on October 20, 2016, 10:00:54 pm
Thank you! Please keep the website bugs/issues coming I will knock them all out. Btw Sup I know you asked me to increase the upload limit to something much higher, what was that amount? I'll add it in. Afterwards we will have Site Moderators / Admin functionality so we can have people work and help manage the site... With the bugs fixed it's pretty much self managed but it will be nice to have an Admin panel for site moderators. =) Thank you for the reports!
Currently the biggest file I have is 810 MB (UFO:CF FLAC Soundtrack) but you'd probably get abused if you increased the limit that high.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on October 20, 2016, 10:21:19 pm
My biggest mod is about 50 MB big (after compression), but it can easily go higher if I add a few music files. Piratez are a little over 80 MB.
At this point I think 200 MB is more or less reasonable as the upper limit.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on October 20, 2016, 11:02:40 pm
Okay I will do a few things so you can upload your files SupSuper and hard code it in and set the standard limit to 200mb... When I create the admin login area we can have a global upload limit and we can then set per-upload limits per users that are verified. For now I'll hard code those 200mb for all users and 1gb for username SupSuper
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on October 21, 2016, 06:31:51 pm
We will be doing maintenance to the server today and updating the linux system kernel to address a security advisory on a vulnerability reported to us today. We expect very minimal downtime and are working to resolve this as fast as possible along with many other modsite fixes discussed previously.

Hope everyone is having a great Friday!

Joshua
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on November 12, 2016, 01:01:30 pm
This will be #1 priority and will be fixed asap.. We are going to fix the mod names that are bugged as well as increase file size. Are there any other issues that need to be taken care of? Basic operations of the site are #1 priority and will be resolved very quickly. Thank you for following up! All will be fixed and resolved soon promise!

All issues will be fixed and resolved this week I promise..

So I will be "that guy" again and just say that it has been a month and the portal is still as useless as always.

Today's test: https://www.openxcom.com/mod/test789

Can we please take it offline?
I am really fed up having to explain to my viewers why this doesn't work... over and over again.

This is a shame to the whole community... shame on all of us, that we haven't been able to fight this cancer!
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on November 12, 2016, 01:10:25 pm
Thanks for being that guy, Meridian. Last time I complained about it, I've been called a dick by a prominent person. (And I wasn't rude or anything.)
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on November 12, 2016, 01:39:24 pm
Oh, I forgot answering this one.

I understand and share the frustration that you feel with the site but consider this.

Joshua has been voluntarily hosting the mod site for years, giving his own free time and resources.

We ALL are giving our free time and resources. Nobody is getting money for anything here.
The difference is that this portal is ACTIVELY wasting my time... as I answer questions of confused people several times a week.

Yes, the site definitely isn't perfect it currently has issues with uploads/downloads but unless you or anybody else is willing to give as much time, knowledge and resources as he's doing, despite his real life, then I'll still first praise him, before pointing out the flaws or suggesting improvements.

Sorry, but "isn't perfect" is looking at this through 10 pink glasses... it just doesn't work.
You can't rate the quality of something that doesn't work at all.


It's easy to complain about the mod portal, but if it was gone, then the community would definitely miss its absence.
And if anyone says that he/she could do a better job than Joshua and have a better mod portal, well, what are you waiting for?

The portal IS already missing... and nobody (except new confused people) is missing it.
Wanna proof?
Here's how people publish their mods:

Big mods:

Area 51 - dropbox
Hardmode - dropbox
Piratez - mediafire
XComFiles - mediafire
Awesome guns - github
Robin's mod - mediafire
OXCE+ - google drive

5 recent released mods from forum (I just took 5 topmost articles, didn't skip anything to affect the results):

Kjotleik's mod: forum attachment
Reaver'mod: forum attachment
Orz's mod: mediafire
Cydonia's fall OST: openxcom.org (not portal)
Spacemarines: google drive

Now, correct me if I am wrong.... but NOBODY is using the portal.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Kjotleik on November 12, 2016, 02:05:02 pm
Perhaps the best solution is to just make the Mod-Portal into a (searchable) list of mods, with links to external download-sites?

It's better than having to search the forum threads for mods (especially if you are looking for something you don't quite remember the name of).

Just ask for input of [Name of Mod, Link to download, Description of Mod and perhaps a screenshot/picture to represent it]

Don't know how easy it would be to implement an automatic virus-check for all links, though.
The latter would be a great service to the community, in my opinion. It's not really a matter of trusting individuals either, since people have had their online identities stolen before.


sincerely
Kjotleik
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: CanadianBeaver on November 12, 2016, 03:25:54 pm
Unfortunately, like the mod portal, the forum does not work sometimes and I have no idea who can correct it. For example, the first message of topic can not be changed:
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: hellrazor on November 12, 2016, 03:50:43 pm
The mod portal has a lot of issues.
And Joshua has been hosting and programming it in his free time, so we should not really complain about this.

Unfortunately the functionality is currently not really given.
What I would like to have is a github repo for the source code for a mod portal.
So bugs could be fixed faster.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on November 12, 2016, 04:11:44 pm
1/ If we don't complain, nothing happens. So I disagree, we should complain!

2/ I am not complaining in my name... I stopped using it a long ago... and I don't need it. I am complaining in the name of my viewers... instead of gameplay questions and joyful discussions about how awesome openxcom is... the most frequent discussion topic is problems with locating, downloading and installing mods (e.g. FMP) caused by the frikkin' portal.

3/ With critical bug fix turnaround being 16 months (and counting...), I will never even think about using it again... not even if everything was magically fixed tomorrow. Just disconnect the portal from life-support machines and allow it to die with whatever tiny amount of dignity it has left...
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: hellrazor on November 12, 2016, 04:58:08 pm
Meridian i totally understand.

And maybe we could make something of our own, opensource.
A Small Model-View-Controller based System, small SQL Database of better ACID Direct, so no risk of injections.

Fixed HTML Templates and simple admin interface.
Some CSS to make it look pretty. No need for extensive JS usage.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on November 12, 2016, 05:35:22 pm
Yeah, I think a backup system is a great idea. If the mod portal starts working, then it's just backup, otherwise...
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Starving Poet on November 16, 2016, 03:45:19 pm
A searchable to page would work fine - but the question is, how is that different than the forums?   The problem is that if you search for OXC mods, you go to openxcom.COM - and that site needs to just be taken down - it needed to be taken down last November when I first started exploring OXC mods and the same holds true today.

If you want backup for free - there's an unused OXC subreddit or there's always github - even though our use would be pushing the bounds of how it's meant to be used; that's how minecraft moders are doing it these days - they use curseforge.com is the topsite and it links to the individual repositories on git.

I can't find what it takes, but getting OXC modding onto Curseforge might be the best possible solution.

That said - if we're just looking for hosting - I have a couple VPS I'm not using - I just don't want to code or maintain a site.  That was something I did in my previous life and you can't pay me enough to do it again.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on November 16, 2016, 09:00:34 pm
A searchable to page would work fine - but the question is, how is that different than the forums?

Because the forum is extremely chaotic and you're not sure what you are looking for, you're done for - and also when you do know but aren't very computer literate (like most people, including gamers).
Also, it's hard to brows mods from the forum, unless you have way too much time on your hands.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: kkmic on November 23, 2016, 12:29:02 pm
From a community standpoint, the dedicated mod portal is a nice feature to have, and the fact that Jo5hua voluntarily invested time (and probably some money) into it is to be appreciated.



However, considering that Jo5hua does not seem to have anymore time to tend to the portal's outstanding issues (those ones that everyone knows and loves), I think that it's time for the community to take action.

AFAIK, Jo5hua is not inclined to open-source (or at least to allow others to help with) the mod portal code.


So, besides creating a new portal from scratch, what are our options as a community?


Arguments in favor of a new mod portal:

Arguments against:


Please add your ideas and arguments pro/con or alternative options.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on November 23, 2016, 09:35:06 pm
I tried writing an answer, but soon understood that we can't really talk about it without definition what you want the site to be. From the looks of it, you hoped for doing a site which is advanced and complex, while I would be satisfied with a simple page with links and short descriptions.

Since I believe in starting small, I think such a simple site would be fine. Something like I've done here: https://nocturna.cba.pl/
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: kkmic on November 24, 2016, 09:17:20 am
I did not actually had the intention of  proposing anything, I was just keen on asking for what you people believe it would be a good solution to the current situation. Like the links page you have pointed to, Solarius (which, like all the things, has pros and cons - hence the asking)

As the saying goes, "if you have a hammer everything is a nail". I write web applications for a living, so yeah, I feel that a CMS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system) is best suited for this.:) You may call it a "professional deformation" :D

Still, that's only my opinion. My original intention of asking about yours still stands.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on November 24, 2016, 11:55:34 am
Well, a CMS is a given, we're not in paleohtmlthic any more :)
As for the pro/con question, I can't really say anything before Jo5hua states openly if he wants to maintain the current site or not. If yes, then I'm in favour of waiting a bit more for the portal to get fixed (but not more than, say, a month). If not, then there's not really much to discuss, since we need this portal - I believe that otherwise we'll fail to grow as a community.
If Jo5hua doesn't respond, I'll take it as a no.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: CanadianBeaver on November 24, 2016, 03:31:39 pm
It does not matter... let be a CMS. But, the bottom line - let it works!!! And please, fix the error in the message editor (when change and save first message of the topic).
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: The_Funktasm on November 24, 2016, 03:48:41 pm
Dunno if this would work or really appeal, but we could ask for a mod section on one of the major modding sites like the Nexus or GameBanana.

The former has supported games in development like Starbound, and the latter has had as underpopulated a section as the mostly unmoddable initial Resident Evil 4 PC release. I think the community has enough mods already out to justify a section to anyone reasonable enough to see how it could work out well.

EDIT: On the topic of forum errors, while I haven't had anything that centric around the first post in a thread, I have had a problem posting responses or edits of posts, getting some kind of error instead. What's most irritating is that I have gotten in the habit of copying my posts before I hit submit so I can actually post them if they fail. For reference though, I'm in the anachronistic hell of 56k territory. Even when it's almost 2020.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on November 24, 2016, 04:00:24 pm
Please add your ideas and arguments pro/con or alternative options.

All you have written is correct... I don't think we need to have a big discussion about it.
It's more or less intuitive what is good and what is bad.

Maybe just one more thing, which probably a lot of people (including Jo5hua) are not so aware of:

This is not about mod portal being "useful" or "not useful"... if it was only that, I wouldn't even say a word. We however have 3 states here: "useful (positive)", "not useful (neutral)" and "damaging (negative)". The mod portal as it is now is DAMAGING... it's damaging OpenXcom project actively and constantly! Many people who wanted to play OpenXcom and its mods have already turned their backs to it/us, because of the portal. This is a sad reality... and for me a reason to immediately turn the mod portal off... too bad we can't even do that :(

And please, fix the error in the message editor (when change and save first message of the topic).

I have no problems with that... tried on several of my posts.
I have also never heard about any problems from other people... can you try on a different computer? Maybe the problem is in your PC.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Yankes on November 24, 2016, 08:11:54 pm
Another solution could be using https://www.moddb.com/
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: CanadianBeaver on December 04, 2016, 09:13:27 pm
All you have written is correct... I don't think we need to have a big discussion about it.
It's more or less intuitive what is good and what is bad.

Maybe just one more thing, which probably a lot of people (including Jo5hua) are not so aware of:

This is not about mod portal being "useful" or "not useful"... if it was only that, I wouldn't even say a word. We however have 3 states here: "useful (positive)", "not useful (neutral)" and "damaging (negative)". The mod portal as it is now is DAMAGING... it's damaging OpenXcom project actively and constantly! Many people who wanted to play OpenXcom and its mods have already turned their backs to it/us, because of the portal. This is a sad reality... and for me a reason to immediately turn the mod portal off... too bad we can't even do that :(

I have no problems with that... tried on several of my posts.
I have also never heard about any problems from other people... can you try on a different computer? Maybe the problem is in your PC.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: hellrazor on December 04, 2016, 09:23:02 pm
I made a small conception a while back.
Maybe it is useful?

Conception of new Mod portal for OpenXcom Mods:

Framework: probably Codeigniter (PHP5+)
Database: MySQL (Files will be stored in a Directory on the Server)
Templates: HTML / CSS only (ifpossible no Javascript
Maybe customizeable CSS files
Project will be Opensource and shared for participation on github repository

Filetypes:
Screenshots: jpg or png only
Modfiles: *.zip only
both need specific File verification
should we have a size for uploadable files restriction?? -> Soundmod with very huge sound files!)

Database:
   Entity Relationship Model
   Relational Table Model
   Logindata for Users should be the same as for the Forum

Views:
   Users, Authors and Admins:
   Default Site (News, Basic Search, Updated Mods, Newest Mods)
   Searchsite
   Modsite
   Statistics

   Authors and Admins:
   Add new Mod
   Edit existing Mod
   Upload Screenshot
   Upload Files
   Mod specific Statistics

   Admins:
   Add and Edit News Site
   Reassign Authors and Mod Ownership
   
Formfeatures:
   Searchsite:
      Keywordsearch
      Search by Author
      Search by Modname
      Search by Gametype (UFO, TFTD, Total Conversion, Exe Mods (OpenXcom Extended for example)
      Search by category (Maps, Graphics, Weapons, Additional Aliens, etc..)
   
   Add new Mod Site:
      Textfields (Mod discription (short/long)
      Upload for README.TXT
      Upload for CREDITS.TXT
      or alternativly Formfields for c&p

      Upload Screenshots
      Sort Screenshots / Rename Screenshots
      Add Forum Thread Link
      Add Modfile
      Add Changelog entries for new to upload file
      Select Licence (from Database List) or
      Add Licence Terms (Formfield)
      Add manual Keywords
      Set Keywords from List (from Database)

   Edit existing Mod:
      Basically the same ass Add new Mod
      But with ability to include other Authors (in case of abandoned Mods (Admin only)

   Mod Site:
      Draw Short and Long Description
      Draw Screenshots (Gallery)
      Draw README.TXT
      Draw CREDIT.TXT
      Draw Changelog entries (last 2)
      Draw Licence information
      Draw Mod filelist (with download links)
      Draw Commentbox (maybe it is better to add a link to the appropriate Forum Link?)
      
   News Site:
      Chronological News Articles
      Randomly Selected Mods
      Link in News from openxcom.org
      Linklist (project related -> ufopaedia, forum etc..)
      Bugtracker Issue Index

   User Information:
      Email Notifications
      RSS Feeds
      
Filetracking: (Possible Feature)
   Track Resource files of Mods and also Map and Routes files
   via their md5checksum, this would allow to create a really andvanced search feature,
   for Modders to find which files are used in which mod and in which version they are used.

Important functions (Requiered):
   File verification on Upload for Screenshots and zip files.
   Inspecting uploaded files for malicious content. (if possible)
   Thumbnail generator for Screenshot preview.
   Picture Scaler (minimize load times)
   Picture Cache (reduce CPU load)
   Sanatizing Database queries!
   
   Maybe other stuff to add later?

Todo:
   Development Server
   Framework Documentation and setup
   ERD
   Relational Model
   HTML Templates
   Class Definitions
   Maybe UML Model (since we work OOP and need some proper planning?)
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on December 04, 2016, 09:30:45 pm
.

Yes, I have noticed some problems too and SupSuper confirmed them and said he will report to Ninex.
Not sure if anything was done.

https://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log/openxcom?date=2016-11-25#l240
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: hellrazor on December 06, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
I will make some planning documents in the next few weeks.

Would SQL be ok for the Database? Or is there something else which could be used which would be better?
Also i would like to try to write it from scratch without using a framework.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on December 06, 2016, 05:26:45 pm
I will make some planning documents in the next few weeks.

Would SQL be ok for the Database? Or is there something else which could be used which would be better?
Also i would like to try to write it from scratch without using a framework.

SQL is not a database, it's a language, but I guess you know that.
If you meant Microsoft SQL Server, than it's perfectly fine... like anything else really.

The choice depends on where you will be able to host this website and what does the host offer, no?

And if you are serious about it, probably start a new thread.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: CanadianBeaver on December 08, 2016, 04:29:52 am
Nothing is changed. I think the problem in checking length of message on server side, because the small message can be changed.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on December 18, 2016, 08:58:14 am
Hello!

Very sorry for the MIA. I have read many of the replies on here and I wanted to provide some news on the situation. I spent two months building the website out of my pure love of the game... During a web host move the upload function broke due to a minor issue that can be resolved easily. During this time I had also launched a private business which has taken off. OpenXcom has always been a great priority and love for me and I understand the lack of attentiveness to one of the basic features of the OpenXcom website.. I have worked hard and am very happy to announce the following to solve all of our questions, concerns, and future hope for the website.

The company is fully committed to making the modsite work but also exceed in functionality to the community at wide. The platform is a great template for what we can build together, more expecially with unlimited server capacity. We have hired a 100 percent dedicated PHP Developer that will work on behalf of the company. The first task which will begin immediately and be resolved within the next week is going to be the upload / download function. Afterwards we will have our dedicated PHP developer work on a full administrations and moderation area in which the site will have full moderation and administration functionality. While our dedicated PHP developer will at down the road work on other projects, the main priority will be OpenXcom. So we will resolve all issues and we will make the website far more open for a team of great administrators and moderators can manage and make a dependable area for all things related to OpenXcom files.

At this time while we get our dedicated PHP dev situated we would like all features and requests to be submitted. We have a full time programmer on board now which I am showing the entire modportal so we are now open for full continual development of the mod portal!

Thank you let me know your thoughts and, Merry Christmas,

Joshua

PS: This is cross-posted from another thread:

Quote
Hi guys,

Sorry I have been MIA... I started a company this year and it's taken a lot of my time... But I have great news! I have hired an amazing dedicated PHP Developer that will be able to do many things for us... Including 1) fixing the upload / download function... And also 2) begin phase 2 of the website to add full moderator / administrator staff access to be able to work the entire website.

This full time PHP developer will also be able to work on some of our personal projects such as creating a full working website API to the website. This would allow us to create an in-game mod manager interfaced with the modsite. Our PHP guru will be full time and available to allow us to have continual development attention to the website, and also to add areas and features that we all with to see on the website. So please let us know any and all features that you would like to see on the mod portal. We are no longer limited on time and we can make things happen failry quickly now to the benefit of the OpenXcom Mod Portal. =)

Let us know any features or suggestions you would like to contribute, we want hear them all!

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone look forward to your comments.

Joshua
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on December 26, 2016, 04:55:31 pm
An anecdote: I uploaded a new mod. Then I tried to download it, just to test it if works. I got the message "mod not found on the server", but at the same time, it downloaded. :)

EDIT: Now I uploaded another mod and it doesn't even show on the files list in My Mods section. Maybe it's because it's bigger?
Anyway, what a horrible mess.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on January 09, 2017, 08:32:25 pm
Hello Happy Monday! We are moving the website to a much faster server and much more space with a dual processor setup. It's very fast and it's on 4xSSD RAID 10 so it's very fast! The website will be going under maintenance and not reachable until we move it to the new server. There we have new upload classes ready to fix this issue.

Solar can you compose me a list of known bugs on the site to resolve? I know about the upload issue and we're ready to test it and patch it to resolve this one bug. I'll keep an eye here so we can iron out any more.

Thank you!
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on January 09, 2017, 09:11:02 pm
Solar can you compose me a list of known bugs on the site to resolve? I know about the upload issue and we're ready to test it and patch it to resolve this one bug.

I am not aware of any other bugs, because to be honest this one makes using the site pointless. If it's fixed, lesser bugs will probably appear.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: ivandogovich on January 09, 2017, 09:16:23 pm
Another bug is that clicking on "images" often dumps you back to the home page.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: CanadianBeaver on January 18, 2017, 06:28:53 am
Another bug is that clicking on "images" often dumps you back to the home page.

I confirm. This is a very annoying bug ...
Title: Alternate Mod Portal Resource for Authors
Post by: ivandogovich on January 23, 2017, 11:44:55 pm
(https://openxcommods.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/8/4/11849982/header_images/1388560337.jpg)

https://openxcommods.weebly.com/  is re-opened for business. 

Luke83 has graciously assigned IvanDogovich and Solarius Scorch as site admins.

Our intent is to provide an alternate venue for OpenXcom Modding Resources.

Feel free to shoot me a PM if you'd like a page set up to host your mods, or links to your mods.

Cheers!
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on January 25, 2017, 08:11:12 am
Hello,

We are currently in the process of revamping the modsite... This includes resolving the uploader issue that came when we moved to the new servers.. This will be resolved soon. Along with this we are adding Administration capability to allow a group of Moderators to help manage the site and have the tools to manage the entire website.. The Mod Site  is currently going through Phase 2 and resolving current issues and also giving access and power to Moderators to help manage the website..

Please let us know any comments / feedback / ideas / questions and we'll be happy to assist.

Thank you and Happy New Year!

Jo5hua

--- posts merged. Man, they were literally 1 minute apart :/ ---

Another bug is that clicking on "images" often dumps you back to the home page.

Every single bug on the website is being put on a bug list. Every single bug will be addressed and resolved. Thank you for reporting!

--- ...and this one was 3 minutes later, WTF? ---

BTW, Everyone please we are working on the modsite right now... Please do give us your ideas of what you would like to see on the modsite... Right now is the time to put your ideas and feedback in and we will be taking care of it.. Thank you and please get the word around so we can get everyone's thoughts and ideas so we can make a plan and make this happen!

Happy New Year,

Jo5hua
Title: Re: Alternate Mod Portal Resource for Authors
Post by: Meridian on January 25, 2017, 10:40:04 am
https://openxcommods.weebly.com/  is re-opened for business. 

Hi Ivan,
that's great news!
Can I please have a page on the new mod portal?
M.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: ivandogovich on January 25, 2017, 04:41:17 pm
BTW, Everyone please we are working on the modsite right now... Please do give us your ideas of what you would like to see on the modsite... Right now is the time to put your ideas and feedback in and we will be taking care of it.. Thank you and please get the word around so we can get everyone's thoughts and ideas so we can make a plan and make this happen!

Happy New Year,

Jo5hua

Suggestion:
An option to e-mail notify an author when a comment is posted on a Mod Page.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on February 03, 2017, 05:04:31 pm
Suggestion:
An option to e-mail notify an author when a comment is posted on a Mod Page.

The comment system already supports this, I will need to look at it and see how we can enable comment notification for everyone as it's already in the comment system as a working function just hidden right now.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Markus Ramikin on February 15, 2017, 10:45:56 pm
I wanna upload a mod, but I can't seem to register on the mod portal. I am not getting the confirmation message. And yes, I know how junk folders work etc.

In fact, one of my emails seems to already be taken, so I must have tried before, but when I try to go to https://www.openxcom.com/account/forgotpassword/ , it just puts me at https://www.openxcom.com/account again. Soooo... no password recovery?
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on March 08, 2017, 11:51:44 am
I wanna upload a mod, but I can't seem to register on the mod portal. I am not getting the confirmation message. And yes, I know how junk folders work etc.

In fact, one of my emails seems to already be taken, so I must have tried before, but when I try to go to https://www.openxcom.com/account/forgotpassword/ , it just puts me at https://www.openxcom.com/account again. Soooo... no password recovery?

We will be uploading a new version of the modsite that will resolve many of these issues to meet demands... Markus for the mean time send me your registered email and info and I'll reset your password manually. Thank you!
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on March 29, 2017, 12:10:11 am
I wanna upload a mod, but I can't seem to register on the mod portal. I am not getting the confirmation message. And yes, I know how junk folders work etc.

In fact, one of my emails seems to already be taken, so I must have tried before, but when I try to go to https://www.openxcom.com/account/forgotpassword/ , it just puts me at https://www.openxcom.com/account again. Soooo... no password recovery?

New password has been sent =) The new site will have the Forgot Password working. Thanks!
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Dioxine on April 10, 2017, 06:54:18 pm
Posts criticizing Jo5hua got deleted from this thread, and there is no moderator's notice on whose and why. Can I have an explanation? Do posts 'disappear' from other topics without any notice as well?
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on April 10, 2017, 07:50:48 pm
Dear Joshua,

I would kindly like to report a very tiny and insignificant bug... the downloads from the mod site don't work since August 2015.

Here is a very recent example from April 2017: http://www.openxcom.com/mod/test-4

Steps to reproduce:
1. create a new mod
2. upload a file
3. save and publish the mod
4. try to download... about 10-15% of files uploaded this way can't be downloaded

I hope this can be resolved quickly (i.e. in about 2-3 more years or so) and I'm fully available for any further assistance you may need.

Sincerely,
Meridian
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Dr.Crowley on April 11, 2017, 11:48:51 pm
Uh-oh, I feel the drama is coming this way. Sol, should this tread be locked to avoid any impure storms here?
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on April 12, 2017, 12:45:27 am
Uh-oh, I feel the drama is coming this way. Sol, should this tread be locked to avoid any impure storms here?

Nah, no rules broken, I have no right to intervene.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Stoddard on April 12, 2017, 01:36:00 am
No posts were deleted, this was a misunderstanding.

Quote from: Solarius Scorch
-quote removed by author-

-my overreaction was here-
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on April 17, 2017, 05:09:07 pm
-my overreaction was here-

Yeah, we all failed a spot check. Awkward.

Regardless, I wanted to update Final Mod Pack, I uploaded the .zip, then tried to download, and guess what? File not found! Exactly like it's been for the past 2 years! Such progress, much wow!

I'm going back to Mediafire. If someone can't download my file because of some problems with the service, go complain to Jo5hua.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Dr.Crowley on April 18, 2017, 02:25:45 pm
Seems like we need "Reserve Mod Links" topic. I guess uploading all mods to Medifire or Google/Yandex Drive would be better option for everyone.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: SupSuper on April 20, 2017, 02:00:42 am
Wow, I didn't realize this had become such a problem. I've already been personally mirroring popular mods on openxcom.org (proudly boasting 99.99999% uptime!) since we often get asked about them on social media, so if anyone needs an alternate host and doesn't wanna use dodgy file hosting sites just PM me and I can host it.
If this becomes a necessity, I can work with NineX to give modders a more permanent solution like bigger attachments or a restricted FTP or something. Let me know what you think.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Dr.Crowley on April 20, 2017, 07:58:54 am
Since "Uploads and downloads are working again!" became an official slogan of mod portal, hell yes, we need some kind of alternative.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Solarius Scorch on April 20, 2017, 10:56:59 am
Yes, that would be much alpreciated. Some effort was made to provide an alternative, but in the end we don't have a server to store the files, so it was pretty futile.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: SupSuper on April 20, 2017, 10:24:01 pm
Alright we've upgraded attachments to the 21st century. You can now have more files, more thumbnails, and more importantly: 100MB per attachment! Please use this power wisely.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: SteamXCOM on July 15, 2017, 06:58:35 pm
At this time when I use the mod portal my files are 0 bytes.
Previously it was working.
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: tkzv on September 03, 2017, 09:53:57 pm
Where to report missing pages on the mod portal?

The following pages give "There was an error Cannot find this mod in the system":
http://www.openxcom.com/mod/easy-gauss
http://www.openxcom.com/mod/elerium-extraction
http://www.openxcom.com/mod/lightning-and-firestorm-replacement
http://www.openxcom.com/mod/plasma-beam-mod
http://www.openxcom.com/mod/reaver-039-s-air-weapons
http://www.openxcom.com/mod/sectopods-hwp
http://www.openxcom.com/mod/terran-plasma-weapons
http://www.openxcom.com/mod/xcom-intelligence
Title: Re: AUTHORS: Please use the Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on September 03, 2017, 10:09:17 pm
Don't bother, no one's listening  :'(
Title: Re: New Mod Portal
Post by: endersblade on October 07, 2017, 01:50:37 am
Is this place just dead/abandoned?  I can't find a single mod page that has a downloadable mod anymore.  They're all broken links.  Even half the forum posts I've gone to have broken links.
Title: Re: Dead Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on October 07, 2017, 09:57:26 am
The mod portal is pretty much dead, yes.

But the forum is alive!
Can you point to some of those forum links that don't work?
Title: Re: Dead Mod Portal
Post by: Jo5hua on October 29, 2017, 03:51:20 am
The mod portal is pretty much dead, yes.

But the forum is alive!
Can you point to some of those forum links that don't work?

It's not dead, my abusive step dad is dead, but I am done grieving after a terrible year after the news. Thank you for your professionalism and witch hunt. The modsite will be fixed. I thought you were better. smh
Title: Re: New Mod Portal
Post by: Meridian on October 29, 2017, 10:28:31 am
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I'm not having any part in this anymore... good luck