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Title: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: Robotjukebox on March 03, 2023, 02:32:09 am
Anyone know a good way to get one? Currently need it to progress to more advanced researcher.
I’ve open like 160 Reinforced Osiron Crate and not one as dropped.

I need to start to get getting into laser weapons my pea shooters don’t do much against Mutant  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: krautbernd on March 03, 2023, 02:40:21 am
What do you mean "progress to a more advanced researcher"? Recruitment of chief researcher/engineer doesn't require the alloy welder iirc.

Whatever you need it for, alloy welder are carried by alien engineers.
Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: Robotjukebox on March 03, 2023, 04:48:16 am
Right now i'm about mid game and i need the welder as my last requirment for "percise alloy shaping" to then get things like the "improved laboratory (needed for other tech) etc.." so im just kinda stuck right now with real progression until i find one. 
Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: krautbernd on March 03, 2023, 11:23:19 am
Again, they tend to be carried by alien engineers.
Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: Chuckebaby on March 03, 2023, 02:38:03 pm
You might be missing Alien engineering
Here is the tree
https://xcf.trigramreactor.net/master/article/STR_ALIEN_ALLOY_WELDER

I need to start to get getting into laser weapons my pea shooters don’t do much against Mutant  :'( :'(

Look into the Black Ops Auto sniper rifle. Typically 3 autoshots will make then take a long nap.

You can post a save game file I'll try to look at it for you.
Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: Robotjukebox on March 03, 2023, 07:16:35 pm
@Chuckebaby @krautbernd  Thanks for the info!

Yeah i just checked i do have "alien engineering" researched. Dropped the save file anyways if you want to take a peak. (I do have X-com Files Alternative Art and X-Com X-Files Resound Mod so not sure if that will effect save)

Guess ill have to shoot down more UFO'S
Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: Chuckebaby on March 04, 2023, 01:18:02 am
@Chuckebaby @krautbernd  Thanks for the info!

Yeah i just checked i do have "alien engineering" researched. Dropped the save file anyways if you want to take a peak. (I do have X-com Files Alternative Art and X-Com X-Files Resound Mod so not sure if that will effect save)

Guess ill have to shoot down more UFO'S

Just downloaded it, I'll take a look in a bit and get back to you soon
Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on March 04, 2023, 11:42:25 am
Such things can also be "procured" from Osiron, but it's highly random. Still, winning as many Osiron missions as possible is very beneficial, especially in late early and early mid game.
Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: Chuckebaby on March 04, 2023, 02:03:40 pm
Solarius is right, it's probably Orison missions and possibly crates that need to be opened as well.

You have a lot going on here= 4 manors, 2 Embacy's and 2 colony's (and a Golden tower academy). You already had one bad month and this one isn't looking any better.

Here's what I did:
- I fixed your score from last month and gave you a boost for this month. This shall keep you going for a bit.
- I gave 2 of your soldiers boosted stats (Super soldiers) Ji Yo + Ye Jun Mo.
- Your 2 super soldiers have now been equipped with Black Ops Auto Sniper Rifles (You have only 2 rifles and 50 clips).

This is cheating no doubt, but I've been in this position before and it sucks. This game can be ruthless sometimes (which is actually half the fun) but sometimes a little boost can get you by. Use your 2 snipers (Super soldiers) wisely. For when your pinned down from an enemy's sniper fire. This should get you through these 4 manors.

This is simply a boost to keep you rolling
Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: krautbernd on March 04, 2023, 02:14:58 pm
Solarius is right, it's probably Orison missions and possibly crates that need to be opened as well.

I’ve open like 160 Reinforced Osiron Crate and not one as dropped.

Why not just cheat in an actual alloy welder while you're at it? At this point it doesn't really matter, does it?
Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: Chuckebaby on March 04, 2023, 04:43:07 pm
Why not just cheat in an actual alloy welder while you're at it? At this point it doesn't really matter, does it?

You seem to be visibly upset in a lot of the threads here giving slightly condescending responses.
IDK, maybe it's just me.

Anyway, I'd rather see him get the Alien welder himself, trouble is, his save game file.. he has a lot to tackle. Including opening 3 more Orison crates (one that contains Synth skins/for synth suit) which could potentially really help his efforts.

You can always download the file and do it yourself if you wish ? Or continue criticizing others for trying to help.
Honestly, either way, doesn't really bother me much.
Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: krautbernd on March 04, 2023, 05:51:03 pm
You seem to be visibly upset in a lot of the threads here giving slightly condescending responses.
IDK, maybe it's just me.

Anyway, I'd rather see him get the Alien welder himself, trouble is, his save game file.. he has a lot to tackle. Including opening 3 more Orison crates (one that contains Synth skins/for synth suit) which could potentially really help his efforts.

You can always download the file and do it yourself if you wish ? Or continue criticizing others for trying to help.
Honestly, either way, doesn't really bother me much.
No it doesn't, at least not the file you edited and uploaded becasue you changed the RNG. That is, if OP is even playing with save scumming disabled. It's a moot poin to make either way.

Again, why not simply cheat in the welder as well while you're at it? OP hasn't asked for you to give him super soldiers with auto rifles or fix his score either.

OP asked how to get the welder.  You are not "trying to help", you are trying to "fix" OPs ongoing game without actually solving the problem. And how is you telling him that he needs "to open Osiron crates" even helping when he's stated in his initial post that he has openend over a hundred of those already?

That's what I am ciritcizing you for. And please tell me more about how this doesn't "bother you" while going out of your way to complain about it.

OP has asked how to get the welder. OP has been told how to get the welder. Do you need me to point out to you who told him where to get the welder while you are complaining about me critizing others "for trying to help"?

Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: plainer on March 04, 2023, 06:05:13 pm
If I'm not mistaken, the welder often is lying in Cyberweb plants. And much less often in Cyberweb sewers.
Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: Chuckebaby on March 04, 2023, 06:35:05 pm
No it doesn't, at least not the file you edited and uploaded becasue you changed the RNG. That is, if OP is even playing with save scumming disabled. It's a moot poin to make either way.

Again, why not simply cheat in the welder as well while you're at it? OP hasn't asked for you to give him super soldiers with auto rifles or fix his score either.

OP asked how to get the welder.  You are not "trying to help", you are trying to "fix" OPs ongoing game without actually solving the problem. And how is you telling him that he needs "to open Osiron crates" even helping when he's stated in his initial post that he has openend over a hundred of those already?

That's what I am ciritcizing you for. And please tell me more about how this doesn't "bother you" while going out of your way to complain about it.

OP has asked how to get the welder. OP has been told how to get the welder. Do you need me to point out to you who told him where to get the welder while you are complaining about me critizing others "for trying to help"?

Rather than making this thread about you or I, why not just help the member instead.

If you don't approve of my help, I'm not going to lose sleep about over it. Feel free and unlock the "Alien welder" and help him out.
Would probably be more productive than you and I arguing about it.

This forum could use more members, not less members. Being friendly and less confrontational would help grow a healthy community.

Who here wants to help members with their problems... when they are attacked by other members for giving that help ? No one.
That is the type of thing that drives people away.

Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: krautbernd on March 04, 2023, 07:15:50 pm
Rather than making this thread about you or I, why not just help the member instead.

If you don't approve of my help, I'm not going to lose sleep about over it. Feel free and unlock the "Alien welder" and help him out.
Would probably be more productive than you and I arguing about it.

I already answered OP's question - in the first post in this thread.

Stop projecting, and stop claiming things that are counterfactual, like this "not really bothering you much", or you actually removing - instead of "adding" - synthskin to those Osiron crates.
Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: Robotjukebox on March 04, 2023, 08:11:46 pm
Hey just popping back into this thread! I took some of you advice with autosnipers (Those things are really good most of the "AUTO" weapons seems meh but it worked out good) and using the gym to train troops better (I did all this on my original save before i saw the updated save) Took a good chunk of the manors out (hybrid bases and colonlys are still to rough right now)  and did some more crash sites

Hit a floater scout ship (i think) and load and behold i GOT ONE! must have been in total like, 13 crash sites, 1 or 2 landings and 160 Osiron crates. guess i was just unlucky. Already got my fancy new lab up and laser weapons on the way. Usually i haven't made it this far. So any advice for good techs to get or rush would be appricated!


Thank for the adivce! Gonna go and bag me some more aliens now!
Title: Re: Alien Alloy Welder?
Post by: Solarius Scorch on March 04, 2023, 08:18:53 pm
Since the issue has been resolved, I'm locking this thread to prevent really unnecessary tensions.