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OpenXcom => Open Feedback => Topic started by: michal on September 08, 2012, 09:29:22 am
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People in comments are suggesting more youtube videos. I too think it's good idea to have videos showing new features.
It would be great if someone could make video in such style (with commentary):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD71523B07EA46A9E&feature=plcp
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I have considered doing a commented video or even a livestream to get more attention on the project, I just worry me talking might just scare people more. :P Let me know if you'd be interested.
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It would be great to have more youtube video's. It's the place where video games become popular these days, with let's play videos or reviews on youtube. I made a few silent ones with new features on previous releases. I recorded one with my voice and it was scary, so I never put it online, lol, but I think everyone has that the first time. But if you are brave and do one with talking, people realise there is actual people working on this project :)
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Go for it SupSuper :D If you afraid how you sound, you may record some sample video and add it to youtube as hidden (only ppl with link can see it) and put link here or send pm to couple of persons ;) Then we can tell you if you can go public ;)
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I plan on making some with the attention added to the MOD side of Openxcom , still not sure about using my voice though :P
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Was all set to make a video tonight but for some reason Openxcom refuses to play music or sound effects in my NEW Win XP virtual machine, the windows itself has no problem with sounds , just openxcom has a issue ( same files work perfect in another VM i use for my modding). So i thought i would boot up in windows , rebooted system , viewed GRUB , no sign of windows anywhere ( haven't used it in 2 years) , i do know its still on the hard drive , i can see the files........ Some things are never easy :P
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Was all set to make a video tonight but for some reason Openxcom refuses to play music or sound effects in my NEW Win XP virtual machine, the windows itself has no problem with sounds , just openxcom has a issue ( same files work perfect in another VM i use for my modding)
I'd suggest checking your options.cfg to see if OpenXcom muted itself at some point.
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The Config file looked ok, couldn't see any reason why it would be silent so i just renamed it and let openxcom create me a new file, This gave me sound but that created a new problem.
In game the music TEMPO speeds up and slows down depending on what i am doing on screen , i figured that would sound really crap on a Youtube video so i left the sound effects on only.
OK must of made 50 movie tonight , hopefully i can piece one good final product together by next week, really not sure about my voice on it :o This Video was focused on my Expanded Terror Map but i plan on recording some INSTANT BATTLE ones also next week and just start pushing the project , the next setback for me will be finding some video editing software - i don't think i own any :P
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SupSuper, Daiky - Any news on official youtube video?
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I'll probably make a video next weekend, I got some uni work to do and I wanna make sure there's no nasty bugs left to embarrass me. :P
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Bugs which could embarrass you in video? Or you're planning to release 0.45 nest weekend? ;)
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FYI: i have uploaded 2 short videos to Youtube just showcasing what i am working on.
Here is the first one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw6_7PWVsdo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr8iWiYtHLQ&feature=plcp
As you can see i have currently gone against using my voice :P
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FYI: i have started work on some Support tutorial to go with the information on the MOD site, first one is up ( as long as the copy right claim doesn't bite me in the bum)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7ErO2K-TqnE
Once again , no voice , it just not easy to talk about something "Freestyle" and i am too lazy to right a script of what to say in advance :P
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It's hard to follow what you're trying to do without any narration, you should at least use subtitles.
Also, I've settled on making an OpenXcom video after 0.4.5 (which should be out within this week), since it's very hard to work on both at once. :P
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Volume was really loud for me (Yes, I did turn my volume down, still, rattled the windows for a second ;) ), but looked good. I agree with SupSuper about making it more obvious what you're doing, and maybe "why" you're doing it too.
Good job!
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some one complained about the video quality also , i may re-make this tutorial ( i will most likely make another one going over the same stuff )
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What are you using for recording that? recordmydesktop? I see you're using linux.
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Yep Record my desktop , its the only one i could find that works , so now to work out How to improve the video quality ?
Follow up question , how do you know i am using Linux?
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Can see the Ubuntu title bar above your Windows screen, so looks like you're using a VM ;D
I'm afraid I can't really help with screen capturing on Linux. I use FRAPS and CamStudio on Windows
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Luke, does file created by recordmydekstop had better quality? I've used it and i think it does good quality. Have you tried changing some settings?
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I have used Cam studios at work , compared to this "Record my desktop" its awesome.
"Luke, does file created by recordmydekstop had better quality? I've used it and i think it does good quality." I think it slighly better then the Youtube video version , not sure why it would loose quality though.
I cant see any options in "Record my desktop to improve quality :(
I just made a QUICK video making a small Mapblock in the jungle setting again, this time i changed my screen resolution of the VM - waiting to see if its any better or not?
UPDATE: Just remembered you can change the FONT size in windows control panel, Now the text is very clear but the page VM looks so very ugly :P
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What codec (+settings) are you using? It might be the codec you've got set up.
You could try with "Uncompressed Frames", which will give you a massive (and I do mean MASSIVE) file, but it would record in crisp quality, then you could use something like VLC to convert the video to an MP4 for YouTube upload
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You're using recordmydesktop or gtk-recordmydekstop?
Gtk version has nice window, where you can change setting, pick which window to record, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP8ycfUF3ZQ&feature=related
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Just normal "recordmydesktop" .
i have tweaked some settings in my video edit software "oneshot video editor" and i also recorded my VM in a different Resolution as soons as its working i will upload it and make it private so you guys can give me some more feedback.
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Here are available options:
https://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/manpage.php
As for openshot, i managed to get not so bad quality by encoding to mpeg2 in hd resolution and uploading to youtube.
As for private video, just prepare small sample - one minute or so.
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Youtube always does reencoding on its end, so your uploaded video will always have less quality than the original, although the better the original, the less noticable it'll be. Here are some guidelines: https://support.google.com/youtube/bin/static.py?hl=en&page=guide.cs&guide=1728585
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Well i made that video again lastnight with full audio commentary only to discover today the sound stopped 5 mins in , i really need to find some better software >:(
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It might be related to using virtual machine - it uses some part of machine resources. You might want to try OpenXcom version compiled for linux. I can send you one.
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Thanks for the offer , i would not mind trying a Linux Version of Openxcom , its been SOOOOOOOO long since i have ;)
Biggest problem i have is all the Mod tools are Windows based and i have not had much luck getting WINE to handle them :P
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Have you tried running the Windows version of CamStudio inside the VM? I have no idea if that would work, but might be worth a go
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https://sysadminwiki.net/wiki/index.php?title=Screen_Capatures_and_Desktop_Recording_in_Ubuntu
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Is this one any better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZZe4EAqKqAU
Sorry about my Voice :P
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Watched just for a while. Video quality is really good :D
As for your voice...
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I'm not sure you want to hear this.
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You should be nominated to become official OpenXcom lector :D Your voice sounds fantastic :) I love it :)
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Your voice is fine luke, very easy to understand. :) Only problem is you should clean up the background noise with an audio editor next time.
Biggest problem i have is all the Mod tools are Windows based and i have not had much luck getting WINE to handle them :P
Since the programs are .NET-based, have you tried using Mono instead?
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+1 on Luke becoming the official voice of all OXC video presentations from now on.
You're too good at this to let your skill rot.
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Ummmmm Thanks :-\
gosh Audio editor , things are getting complicated , is there a idiot proof, free program somewhere, save me looking?
"Since the programs are .NET-based, have you tried using Mono instead?" What is Mono?
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i use Audacity for audio editing. It's pretty good, but I don't know if it works on video files.
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gosh Audio editor , things are getting complicated , is there a idiot proof, free program somewhere, save me looking?
Audacity (https://audacity.sourceforge.net/) is what I use, it's free, cross-platform, and has plenty of helpful guides: https://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Noise_Removal
It only works with audio files though, so you would have to record your mic and screen separately and combine them afterwards. I can post my video process later if you think it'll help.
"Since the programs are .NET-based, have you tried using Mono instead?" What is Mono?
Mono (https://www.mono-project.com/) is a cross-platform .NET Framework, it (usually) lets you run .NET programs on any platform, even if they're EXEs, so it might help you out with MapEdit.
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I think slightly better mic and/or audiocard will do this job much better than any audio editor. Cleaning noise after recording is not very good idea, since there still will be some (and quite a lot, if my hear it right) audible artifacts.
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That's a good tutorial vid. Well done!
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I think slightly better mic and/or audiocard will do this job much better than any audio editor. Cleaning noise after recording is not very good idea, since there still will be some (and quite a lot, if my hear it right) audible artifacts.
Better Mic and Audio card are not really options because financial stress :P
Ok , i will try out Audacity and MONO , thanks for the help ;)
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So, guys, small openxcom kickstarter for luke83? ;) I have some spare bucks in my paypal account. I guess i could donate 5 - 10 $
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Audacity (https://audacity.sourceforge.net/) [...] only works with audio files though, so you would have to record your mic and screen separately and combine them afterwards. I can post my video process later if you think it'll help.
You could use VirtualDub (https://www.virtualdub.org/) (it's free) to combine and synchronize your audio and video streams (among the other things (https://www.virtualdub.org/features.html) it can do).
@michal: That would be a good idea. And from Luke's impressive presentation, it's a worthy initiative
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Haha , my current Mic only cost me $10 ( about the same price as a large mcdonalds meal), lets see how the Audio editor works first on cleaning things up. If we get to a point where i need to add a audio card i will save up for a new PC first and get one put in , i am estimating this to be the last year of this one before something explodes ;)
Recording the video seperate to the sound is no big problem , i lost 80% of the sound that went with that last video so i just talked into the Mic whilst watching it.
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Anyone knows what's the prices of good mics?
I've found that:
https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Pro-PDMIC58-Professional-Handheld-Microphone/dp/B003GEBGA0/ref=pd_cp_MI_0
Costs, $12.88 - so i guess 20$ - 30$ should be enough for good mic? Or not?
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its was more the Audio card that i dont have the funds for , not so much the Mic.
Lets make a Deal , lets get Openxcom finished and TFTD started and i will keep making mods and videos ;)
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Michal, try looking up a good audio card ;D
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OK , Audacity , works great and easy to use , thanks Supsuper and AndO3131 .
Michal , i think you can call off the Kickstart ;)
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https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Channel-Sound-Card-XONAR_DG/dp/B0045JHJSS/ref=pd_sim_e_1
https://www.amazon.com/Xonar-DSX-Engine-Playback-Support/dp/B007TMZ1MY/ref=pd_cp_e_2
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Is this clear enough? Do i really need a better Mic?
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Good job :) Quality is great :)
When will be next audition? ;)
So, maybe luke could make commentary for video about openxcom 0.4.5 ?
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Great quality. I have not noticed any background noise on your audio clips.
Nice to see that you can do impersonations too.
+1 on Luke becoming the official voice of all OXC video presentations from now on.
I would like to change my vote to +2 :D
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Has anyone ever thought that maybe Supsuper would like to be on his own videos?
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Yes, of course - let's wait what he says ;)
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I'm sure he won't mind having not to worry about making videos anymore :)
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How about each of us make our own videos? ;) Luke can deal with the community side while I deal with the developery side.
Also your new recordings sound great, I don't think you have anything else to worry about.
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thanks mate, hopefully we can both bring the masses to this wonderful project
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Yeah, more videos is always cool :D
SupSuper, do you know what you will say in this video? It would be great if you could have some introduction (how/why it started), what it gives now, what will it give later, why it's better than ufo in dosbox, etc ;)
Something like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2PKBD0D9Gw&feature=plcp
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So, how's video? Openxcom 0.4.5 has been released today :)
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Yes , i would love to see a Video of all the new stuff for version o.45 and also some other videos showing examples of what can be changed in the rulesets
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I got a sore throat now (clearly from working too hard :P) so the 0.4.5 video might take a while.
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Sorry Off topic warning!
I have been practising my Youtube skills and have done a game review for another channel , Feedback would be welcome , Other than game sound ( which recorded really badly so i turned it off) what can i do to make these NON Xcom videos betterr?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SBOoQ25lm6k
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That's pretty good. :) I didn't even know you could split your squad up...
My only suggestion is that DOSBox has a built-in recorder (Ctrl+Alt+F5) that you can use to record the game without issues.
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thanks for the tip about dosbox recorder , i did not realise it had one.
So you like cannon fodder , when openxcom is done how about you help us Mod a Cannon fodder version
https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,743.msg7160.html#new ;)
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Dosbox recorder, i could not work that ... I specified my location to store the files in the config, then i tried (Ctrl+Alt+F5) , turns out thats a bloody Ubuntu hotkey , so 3 hours later i found how to remap the Dosbox keys but then i still was not getting a recording so either the key change did not map or my config is wrong, the nights almost over and i have done nothing of value.
As a last ditch effort , i went digging through all my old computer Junk boxes ( filled with ram , HD, cables, lost games etc ) and eventually found a cable to plug my Audio out into my Microphone in, 5 mins stuffing around with my systems Sound volumes and Happy day it works.
The moral to this story is this , Unless your a rocket scientist or a computer programmer , you should just look for the quickest way to fix things, Once again my IQ level let me down :P.
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So, is this idea dead? ;)
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If you're looking for software. FRAPS didn't seem to want to record OXC, however, I've been using OBS (Open Broadcast Software) for my Let's Play. However, if you use fullscreen, all it will capture is part of the mouse cursor. Windowed mode works fine.
OBS can be used to live stream and/or record locally
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If you're looking for software. FRAPS didn't seem to want to record OXC, however, I've been using OBS (Open Broadcast Software) for my Let's Play. However, if you use fullscreen, all it will capture is part of the mouse cursor. Windowed mode works fine.
OBS can be used to live stream and/or record locally
FRAPS probably doesn't work because OpenXcom isn't hardware-accelerated, but any desktop-capturing utility like HyperCam should work well.
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Ah, so there was a topic with random youtube openxcom videos... i also made one with OBS and edited it with sony vegas today. just a random battle with current features and mods shown.. horrid battle.
Part 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwH_lhdqWDg
part 2 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eick6OIQ-g4