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Offline Chuckebaby

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Using Flame Glove
« on: November 23, 2023, 03:44:58 pm »
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Probably been covered but, is there any benefit at all into researching "Using flame glove".. Using Dragon staff" "Using Storm rose".. "Using"..etc..etc.. ???
No completed research documentation ever pops for these (Ufopedia) when the research is done.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2023, 06:45:05 pm by Chuckebaby »

Offline psavola

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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2023, 04:28:42 pm »
Probably been covered but, is there any benefit at all into researching "Using flame glove".. Using Dragon staff" "Using Storm rose".. "Using"..etc..etc.. ???
No completed research documentation ever pops for these (Ufopedia) when the research is done.

Well, yes. You can't use those items (except throw them around or some such) unless you research the "using" topic.

Of course, it's a bit illogical. You can spend quite a bit of research and figure out what the item does. Then you can decide whether you want to research it further. But it would be more logical to figure out how to use the item also in the first bit of research. If you didn't know how to use it, you shouldn't learn much of what it does either. That is, you shouldn't be able to find out what those magical items can do unless you at the same time figure out how you use them.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2023, 04:57:32 pm »
Well, yes. You can't use those items (except throw them around or some such) unless you research the "using" topic.

Of course, it's a bit illogical. You can spend quite a bit of research and figure out what the item does. Then you can decide whether you want to research it further. But it would be more logical to figure out how to use the item also in the first bit of research. If you didn't know how to use it, you shouldn't learn much of what it does either. That is, you shouldn't be able to find out what those magical items can do unless you at the same time figure out how you use them.

Thanks. I just realized in order for these specialty items to be available to use you need that second research. I suppose the only other issue is the documentation being blank/empty.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2023, 10:01:02 pm by Chuckebaby »

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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2023, 03:39:01 pm »
Probably been covered but, is there any benefit at all into researching "Using flame glove".. Using Dragon staff" "Using Storm rose".. "Using"..etc..etc.. ???
No completed research documentation ever pops for these (Ufopedia) when the research is done.

Look at this way.  You can pick-up a gun - say an Uzi - and fire it even if you've never used a gun before, but it needs a little extra training to know about different settings like auto, semi-auto and single-shot, and how to clean it right to stop it jamming if it gets dirty.  'Magical' items would be more complicated than that.   Sure you could 'use' it, but it takes extra investigation to know exactly what it does and how to use it 'properly' before you maybe blow-up the lab by switching it on!